@weird@sub.wetshaving.social to memes@lemmy.world • 5 days agoBig naturals is way easier to pronouncesub.wetshaving.socialimagemessage-square69arrow-up11.17K
arrow-up11.17KimageBig naturals is way easier to pronouncesub.wetshaving.social@weird@sub.wetshaving.social to memes@lemmy.world • 5 days agomessage-square69
minus-square@Zwiebel@feddit.orglinkfedilinkEnglish50•5 days ago Natural numbers include zero That is a divisive opinion and not actually a fact
minus-squareKogasalinkfedilink5•4 days agoYeah, it’s a matter of convention rather than opinion really, but among US academia the convention is to exclude 0 from the naturals. I think in France they include it.
minus-square@SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglish3•4 days agopositive interers with addition are not a monoid though, since the identity element of addition is 0
minus-squareLog in | Sign uplinkfedilink2•3 days agoThey’re not a complete algebraically closed field either, but I don’t see you advocating for including e - i in the natural numbers!
minus-square@SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglish1•3 days agoyeah, this is kinda weak argument
minus-squareLog in | Sign uplinkfedilink1•3 days agoNot sure if you’re conceding the monoid part or not. We can agree that the natural numbers are a semigroup, I think, which should make us all happy.
minus-square@SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglish2•4 days agoI hope that explains everything
minus-square@lengau@midwest.sociallinkfedilink1•edit-24 days agoYeah I find it easier to just accept the terminology of natural numbers and whole numbers so we have simple names for both.
That is a divisive opinion and not actually a fact
Yeah, it’s a matter of convention rather than opinion really, but among US academia the convention is to exclude 0 from the naturals. I think in France they include it.
positive interers with addition are not a monoid though, since the identity element of addition is 0
They’re not a complete algebraically closed field either, but I don’t see you advocating for including e - i in the natural numbers!
yeah, this is kinda weak argument
Not sure if you’re conceding the monoid part or not.
We can agree that the natural numbers are a semigroup, I think, which should make us all happy.
Okay
I hope that explains everything
Yeah I find it easier to just accept the terminology of natural numbers and whole numbers so we have simple names for both.