• @14th_cylon@lemm.ee
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    america was called both and it is not anymore. yes. the results of its efforts were at times dubious, and its ideological position was often clouded with its selfish interest, but complaining about propaganda and countering with propaganda from the opposite direction is not going to move the discussion anywhere

    • Deceptichum
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      18 days ago

      It’s not propaganda to say America was/is oppressive on the world stage, we have numerous examples of them enforcing their will onto other states/peoples abroad and at home.

      And American’s dropping the exceptionalism and getting out of their bubble is a huge first step in getting anywhere.

      • @Honytawk@feddit.nl
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        But it is propaganda to say America was never a world leader nor involved in any free world.

        There is evidence of both, even if it is less the case now.