As LLMs become the go-to for quick answers, fewer people are posting questions on forums or social media. This shift could make online searches less fruitful in the future, with fewer discussions and solutions available publicly. Imagine troubleshooting a tech issue and finding nothing online because everyone else asked an LLM instead. You do the same, but the LLM only knows the manual, offering no further help. Stuck, you contact tech support, wait weeks for a reply, and the cycle continues—no new training data for LLMs or new pages for search engines to index. Could this lead to a future where both search results and LLMs are less effective?

  • FaceDeer
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    218 days ago

    Thanks for showing that you have no actual arguments.

    You did it first by jumping to “think of the children!” And analogizing running a program to cannibalism.

    They have no real benefit.

    No need to ban them, then. Nobody will use them if this is true.

    They have insane energy requirements, insane hardware requirements.

    I run them locally on my computer, I know this is factually incorrect through direct experience.

    Personal experience aside, if running an LLM query really required “insane” energy and hardware expenditures then why are companies like Google so eager to do it for free? These are public companies whose mandates are to generate a profit. Whatever they’re getting out of running those LLM queries must be worth the cost of running them.

    We are working on saving our planet

    I see you’ve switched from “think of the children!” To “think of the environment!”

    • haui
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      318 days ago

      You just showed again that you have no actual arguments. You’re using populism to “win” against factually correct and provable statements.

      Using anecdotal evidence is a cheap trick and I believe you know it. It’s not evidence at all. Numbers show that I’m right and you’re wrong in this case.

      “Think of the children” is used as a thought stopper by the political right to push their laws against humanity through. It isnt as smart as you think to wrongly ascribe it. I was right and showed it, you cant live with it. Thats okay.

      • FaceDeer
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        218 days ago

        Using anecdotal evidence is a cheap trick and I believe you know it. It’s not evidence at all. Numbers show that I’m right and you’re wrong in this case.

        So… got any?

        “Think of the children” is used as a thought stopper by the political right to push their laws against humanity through.

        I refer you back to your earlier comment analogizing LLMs to “csam”.

        • haui
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          218 days ago

          You know I’m right and try to troll because you either dont like it or have an agenda. In both cases, thats a you problem.

          • FaceDeer
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            218 days ago

            So I take it you’re not going to post those numbers, then.

            • haui
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              318 days ago

              Of course not. It’s literally 5 words in a search engine.

                • haui
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                  318 days ago

                  I can and did, many times. I also wrote articles about it. I just wont do you the favor to post any of them here because I dislike your attitude. You’re not open to debate. You’re trying to use rhetoric tricks to get around arguments.

                  • FaceDeer
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                    218 days ago

                    I just wont do you the favor to post any of them

                    Why comment in the first place if you’re unwilling to back it up?

                    This is a public forum, you’re not just answering me here.

    • chaosCruiserOP
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      118 days ago

      I haven’t looked into many LLMs, but Microsoft will use your data for training the next version of Copilot. If you’re a paying enterprise customer, then your data won’t be used for that.

      I suspect Google is also using every bit of data they can get their hands on. They have a habit of handing out shiny new stuff in exchange for your data. That’s exactly why Android and Chrome don’t require your money.