• Cowbee [he/they]
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    2320 days ago

    @PKMKII@hexbear.net is describing the standard judgement process of liberals. Western countries are typically judged on their stated intentions, eg Biden claiming to have done everything he could to get a ceasefire in Gaza, while actually supplying Israel with everything they needed.

    Liberals, however, do not extend such courtesy to non-Western countries, and moreover tend to accept the narrative most pushed in the media about such countries despite distorting the quantity and quality of events.

    • bitofarambler
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      220 days ago

      oh, well…that’s not what’s happening here. I try not to conflate everything with one thing.

      The leaps these commenters make are broad.

      • Cowbee [he/they]
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        2620 days ago

        It seems to me that you’re guilty of being evasive, like when I asked you to clearly state your position on the quantity and quality of the re-education camps in Xinjiang. You’re just wasting your own time more than anything, by lacking a firm and coherent stance and sources to support your argument, you weaken every statement you make.

        • bitofarambler
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          220 days ago

          I’m clearly answering every question and including sources when requested.

          that is a novel brand of evasion.

          • Cowbee [he/they]
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            1920 days ago

            Even in this very comment, you refused to clearly state your position on the quantity and quality of the re-education camps in Xinjiang. This is evasion.

              • Cowbee [he/they]
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                1520 days ago

                I asked you the same question here and here, and I’ll do so again in simpler and clearer terms here:

                1. What is going on in the re-education camps in Xinjiang, with sources?

                2. What is the extent, ie the scale, of the re-education camps in Xinjiang, with sources?

                3. Why do they exist in the first place, with sources?

                • bitofarambler
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                  220 days ago

                  1 and 2 have been answered previously, do you want the official answer for 3?

                  • Cowbee [he/they]
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                    1620 days ago

                    You haven’t answered 1 and 2 to my knowledge, you’ve been cagey and evasive. I would like you to answer all 3, complete with sources, in a single comment. That would save us all the most time. If you’d prefer, you can directly link where you’ve answered and sourced your answers for 1 and 2 if you wish to stick by those answers, but based on parsing your comment history, you haven’t done so yet.

        • bitofarambler
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          020 days ago

          not me.

          1. I’m reporting facts rather than judging

          2. there’s no bias on the east or west from my comments.

          obviously I can’t speak for the bias if all of these other excited commenters.

          I’m interested in actions and intentions, regardless of country.

          not just actions and intentions, but complete historical events within context.

          • @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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            1820 days ago

            I’m reporting facts rather than judging

            No you aren’t

            there’s no bias on the east or west from my comments.

            Yes there is.