• @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    24 days ago

    We’re literally watching genocide happen right now, supported by the American president everyone said would be worse for Palestinians, and you’re still blaming the candidate who lost…

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      For one thing we were watching the same genocide for the entire year before the election. Another: She hasn’t said anything about Gaza since losing except to congratulate the idf soldier who got released a month ago. Literally nothing would be different outside our borders. If you guys would just accept reality on this one thing people would stop bothering you about it bc you’re wrong.

      The candidate who lost… because she was silent on palestine, and still is. Welcome to reality. It’s annoying because its accurate. We live in a society where you have to campaign on promises and kamala couldn’t even lie and say she would protect Palestinian children from “war” to win the election against a fascist who was openly planning to finish the ethnic cleansing. Not our fault, hers. She knew the exact outcomes better than any of us and still chose silence.

      Slam dunk easy election to win and they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by being completely feckless and having nothing of value to campaign on. Go yell at the DNC for being enablers of fascism instead of the people online who correctly assessed that unlimited genocide would lose the election for them. We didn’t hold their tongues, they chose not to speak on the single biggest issue of the year and lost. We continue to speak because they do not.

      Again, what good is criticism of trump when the people yelling at us are defending the democrats for doing the exact same thing we’re criticizing trump for? Why would I say “Donald trump isn’t doing enough on gaza” when “doing enough” in his eyes is building his own commercial real estate there? Are the genocide defenders suddenly going to jump on my side because my accurate criticism of US support for genocide is pointed at the santioned enemy of “progressives”? Critiques are most well placed and most effective when pointed at the people claiming to be for the same thing. I’m not moving republicans on this issue, and its kinda gross that I have to work so hard to persuade liberals out of the same position their “opposition” holds. Its just ironic to claim you’re against Trump except for this one issue where the interests are identical, in which case you should only criticize trump for those interests and not the dems.

      People criticize kamala because she is the reason we’re here and democrats still dont want to listen and still won’t back down off their “defending israel is not negotiable” bullshit even after losing the election and losing even more respect from voters after the fact. They learn nothing and demand praise for losing with pride and dignity. Fuck off!

      Corey Booker, attack dog of the radical left, talked for 25 hours and didn’t mention the genocide at all. These people dont care. Stop pretending like they care. Why do you feel the need to protect them?

      They should be removed from office and replaced with principled representatives who will actually do something with the power they are afforded. They chose this. Let them burn for it. They dont need any more protection.

    • @jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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      1124 days ago

      Its not mutually exclusive. Both of those two are responsible for genocide.

      Fortunately there were other candidates who didn’t support genocide. I demand nothing less than justice for war criminals and democracy.

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        24 days ago

        there were other candidates

        Functionally, that’s just not true. The US’s “first past the post” system means that the winner is going to be the Democratic or Republican Nominee. Every time. Is that fucked up and anti-democratic? Yes. Do we need election reform? Badly. But until then, sitting out or “protest voting” is literally throwing away your vote. Along with the Electoral College and other factors, that’s how we ended up with a fascist, convicted-felon rapist as president, who’s currently crashing economies all over the world. Those who truly demand justice will pursue the most effective way to achieve it…

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          sitting out or “protest voting” is literally throwing away your vote

          yeah whatever pal. I dont think so. I left my vote blank with my eyes wide open and I’ll do it again if we ever get a chance to vote again and the DNC doesnt change their fascist-lite tune.

          While you’ll just vote for whoever you’re told to vote for, regardless of their policies.

        • @rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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          Not if most people voted a third party option. The electoral system make it harder but fact is fact people vote for the most confortable options

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      everyone said would be worse for Palestinians

      No, centrists like yourself groping for an excuse said itd be worse.