Female suicides for women have always been low, so the per 100k can vary a bit. In 1970 it was 7.4 per 100k and by 1980 it had dropped to 5.7 per 100k. However, in 1950 and 1960 it was 5.6 per 100k.
So really the “drop” was due to a single high decade of suicides before going back to the average that it had been at. The drop in suicides after the 1970’s was really still a slightly higher rate than the 50s and 60s.
Also, men commit suicide roughly four to five times more often than women.
Far higher social stigmas and family pressure likely led to fewer deaths being ruled suicide in the 1950s as compared to today but of course there can be no data on this fact, just anecdotes.
Anecdotal and a lack of causation. Saying suicides in women dropped after getting no fault divorce after the 70’s is no more a causational fact than saying female suicide rates dropped after the 70’s due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979
Then so would statistics from the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s. You don’t like hearing what the actual data is because it doesn’t fit with your own predetermined narrative, so it must be the data that’s wrong. Sounds a lot like Trump. He only believes the polls that claim people love him.
There’s fascinating data that explains that the reason men are more successful is because they suicide in a more violent fashion, and women tend to do things like poisoning.
“Women may be more likely to take others into consideration, and looking at suicide in the context of relationships may give women less incentive to want to die as it will cause others emotional harm. That may also be why they choose less violent methods of suicide to avoid traumatizing those who will grieve their loss.”
There are a lot of other reasons why the methods might be different. There are a lot of opinions on it. But of the people I’ve lost to suicide, a couple of women intentionally overdosed and left a note out where the family could find it indicating where they’d left their body so they didn’t have to come collect it themselves, or there was one who locked herself in the bathroom with a note on that door… and of the men it was hanging or a shotgun to the face in the woods behind his house. (Which resulted in the neighbor kids finding his body. Not cool.)
This is kind of a bullshit statistic.
Female suicides for women have always been low, so the per 100k can vary a bit. In 1970 it was 7.4 per 100k and by 1980 it had dropped to 5.7 per 100k. However, in 1950 and 1960 it was 5.6 per 100k.
So really the “drop” was due to a single high decade of suicides before going back to the average that it had been at. The drop in suicides after the 1970’s was really still a slightly higher rate than the 50s and 60s.
Also, men commit suicide roughly four to five times more often than women.
Far higher social stigmas and family pressure likely led to fewer deaths being ruled suicide in the 1950s as compared to today but of course there can be no data on this fact, just anecdotes.
Anecdotal and a lack of causation. Saying suicides in women dropped after getting no fault divorce after the 70’s is no more a causational fact than saying female suicide rates dropped after the 70’s due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979
Seems legit. That’s a pretty inspirational song.
Ikr?
Statistics on women’s health from the 50s is probably as reliable as using a Billy Joel song.
Then so would statistics from the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s. You don’t like hearing what the actual data is because it doesn’t fit with your own predetermined narrative, so it must be the data that’s wrong. Sounds a lot like Trump. He only believes the polls that claim people love him.
I guess you really want to believe those were the “good ol days”. Go ahead. Just be glad you weren’t a women then.
Don’t try to defer the discussion or strawman off. I just pointed out that the tweets information is bullshit.
Sure, just pointing out that health stats from the 50s are bullshit.
If you can argue that, you can make the same argument for the 70’s.
I’ve read multiple times that women attempt suicide just as much. If not more than men, men are just better at being successful
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There’s fascinating data that explains that the reason men are more successful is because they suicide in a more violent fashion, and women tend to do things like poisoning.
“Women may be more likely to take others into consideration, and looking at suicide in the context of relationships may give women less incentive to want to die as it will cause others emotional harm. That may also be why they choose less violent methods of suicide to avoid traumatizing those who will grieve their loss.”
There are a lot of other reasons why the methods might be different. There are a lot of opinions on it. But of the people I’ve lost to suicide, a couple of women intentionally overdosed and left a note out where the family could find it indicating where they’d left their body so they didn’t have to come collect it themselves, or there was one who locked herself in the bathroom with a note on that door… and of the men it was hanging or a shotgun to the face in the woods behind his house. (Which resulted in the neighbor kids finding his body. Not cool.)
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