On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR “apology” (ironic)

  • Who knew?
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    572 months ago

    My rights are not a controversy. You’re just a bigot.

    • @RandomVideos@programming.dev
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      552 months ago

      Technically, they are controversial. There are people who support your right to live and there are people who dont support it

      If half of humans thought water was dangerous, drinking water would be a controversial topic

      • @Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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        112 months ago

        Its not black and white like that. There are people who support trans people but are concerned about the medicine and psychology, considering how young and mistake prone those fields are. Keep in mind there was a time where labotomies were defended in a similar way.

          • @Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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            82 months ago

            Probably not 1:1 but the point is that its risky when medicine moves too quickly, and human ego has proven to be an extremely potent force. I use extreme examples to make a point.

            Mainly what concerns me right now is that people who have concerns or questions about the medicine or science are routinely harassed and/or banned from trans communities. That, and the amount of faith the general public has in our understanding of psychology.

        • @RandomVideos@programming.dev
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          42 months ago

          There are also people who arent on either extreme, but that doesnt really matter in the context of deciding if a subject is controversial or not

    • @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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      222 months ago

      they are not bigot, they just dont live in an echo chamber.

      whether you like it or not, there’s lots people not thinking like you. I’m not one of them, just to clarify before I suddenly become a bigot, but people like that do exist, in masses

      • Ada
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        332 months ago

        If you “have an opinion about transgender people” that involves taking away their rights, or putting them in harms way and that prioritises the needs of everyone else first, and the needs of trans people last, if at all, then you have a bigoted opinion.

        • @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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          122 months ago

          and where exactly was that my opinion? it is not an opinion, that such people exist. that is a sad and hard fact.

          but sure, kill the messenger, call me a bigot for pointing out reality.

          • Ada
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            92 months ago

            I wasn’t talking about you, I was talking in general, and the specific context was the person earlier in this discussion, who you explicitly stated is not a bigot.

            • @stephen01king@lemmy.zip
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              32 months ago

              So where exactly did the earlier guy state that was his opinion? He got called a bigot simply immediately after calling the issue controversial, not because he said he believed the things that you claimed.

              • Ada
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                82 months ago

                Again, if you “have an opinion about transgender people” that involves taking away their rights, or putting them in harms way and that prioritises the needs of everyone else first, and the needs of trans people last, if at all, then you have a bigoted opinion. It’s a universal statement.

                The person you were replying to described Nutomics position as “It’s hard for me to imagine a more agreeable and reasonable statement.” And as a reminder, Nutomics post was a statement complaining about pride flags on public buildings, calling transgender women “men” and stating that trans folk are a conspiracy/distraction pushed by the bourgeoisie, despite rich conservatives being largely responsible for the wave of trans hatred we’re currently experiencing.

                That is pure transphobia.

                • @stephen01king@lemmy.zip
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                  42 months ago

                  True, he did say that on another comment, but the argument given here for why he is a bigot is not that comment, its the fact that he said this is a controversial topic.

                  If the guy who accused him of being a bigot wasn’t simply referring to his argument about the controversial nature but based on his actually bigoted views, then he should make it clearer.

                  We should have better standards of communication when accusing people of being a bigot, because badly delivered sane messages can actually sound pretty insane to people who weren’t in the loop from the start.

                  • Ada
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                    52 months ago

                    The guy is defending a bigoted opinion. End of story.

          • Ada
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            52 months ago

            Yep, it’s absolutely something we’d consider once database migration becomes possible

      • socsa
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        92 months ago

        A lot of people thought that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to go to school.

    • @ant1guns444@lemmy.cafe
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      12 months ago

      Your rights to participate in inherently sexist institutions that feeds off athletes who end up with a broken body at 20?

      Lol liberals have the weirdest kinks.

      More transgenders billionnaire please /s