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If it’s upheld, that’s the precursor to full-blown info blackouts, just cut off internet to anyone ‘accused’ of wrongspeak against the powers that be, which is basically everyone.
This also sounds like SOPA reborn.
Oh, so like they do in the uncivilized middle-east?
NaaaahGiven the US is ran by the New Fuhrer? I could see this being used against criticism of leadership or anything else resembling free will and not just piracy. I also find it sad that the day the US will probably die as a free country and turn into a dictatorship, is the same day it gained its independence in the first place.
Is ran?
Their uncivilized censorship regime vs. our civilized online child protection and anti-terror laws.
So you bought into the think of the children argument?
You know that’s a red-herring, right? It’s really about eroding privacy.It was supposed to be a reference to a meme making fun of “us vs. them” mentalities. I know enough about the think of the children argument.
Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?
Don’t give them ideas. Next they’ll cut the blood stream to your brain.
Supreme Court: “One of us! One of us!”
Pretty sure they’ve already done that by not regulating social media better
give it a few months, they’re working up to it.
Accused???
Well alrighty then, I hereby accuse the operators of donaldjtrump.com of piracy! Anybody else notice any piratical activity? Foxnews.com seems pretty fishy.
And OpenAI of course.
But it’s not piracy if you use it for an LLM, right‽
Yes we are all training our LLMs. Perfectly legal.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to go train my LLM on the new season of Yellowjackets
This is how you get a new darknet.
Yep there is no way they can block I2P, they have to block all of it.
In Germany and no doubt some other countries, private law firms can (on behalf of the copyright holders) request people’s identity based on residential IP addresses and then send extortionist legal threats. Apparently an IP appearing on a public tracker can be enough to trigger it, without any confirmed data transfer.
VPNs are common and usually sufficient.
they try that in the US, using mass litigation, but it doesnt work, its usually designed to scare indivudal IP users to “turn them self in”
Don’t public trackers add random IPs?
They could. The protocol also supports IP spoofing, so doxing could also be a thing.
For individuals, it is a time consuming and costly legal process, whether justified or not. For the law firm, it costs a few cents per letter, but they get a few hundred (or more) euros when some sucker pays.
A boy downloaded a movie via torrent without using a VPN.
He died.
Good night! 😴
“the internet” is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can’t be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.
Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany
I think in Finland it is a basic utility like power and water. It is certainly priced like that.
Exactly, sure disconnect customers from the Internet if they use it for entertainment… but once they use it to earn the income that pays their bills, it becomes questionable… and once it is in practice required to be a citizen, at the local, national or supra national level then it becomes a totally different question, to which the answer is basically no, you can’t disconnect someone otherwise you remove their citizenship.
So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐
dint they just rule AI can legally scrape/books, but not for people who are pirating directly.
The US is such a silly place. Everything is so wrong.
IIRC the judge said they could use the data for training, but specifically added that piracy is still piracy and he didn’t rule on that.
So Disney can just sue Meta for one trillion 😀
so then individuals could just train a model locally on the shittiest hardware they have
God willing
All public wifi will be disconnected pretty quickly.
Then pirates will just get smarter. No way for them to see who is watching all of these movies with their VPN and Debrid service.
let’s all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here
See you guys in I2P :)
Lol.
Do ISPs like making money?
Then they shouldn’t disconnect users who pirate.
I get notifications from my ISP all the time. They don’t do anything though because they like the money I give them.
I’ve been torrenting movies and software since 2000, no vpn, like I literally have torrented damn near everything I’ve watched for decades and have only gotten a notice once and it wasn’t even me. It was from a temporary roommate who had watched a movie on a pirate streaming site.
So that tells you how good and accurate their detection techniques are.
Their methods are fine, they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them. The main reasons you wouldn’t get notices are getting lucky, not seeding much, not torrenting things that are being monitored, or having an ISP that doesn’t care much.
The single notice from the streaming site makes sense, pirate streaming sites are usually honeypots or heavily monitored.
My routine is always use piratebay, never use a pirate streaming site, no new or big studio releases, no porn, not seeding for long and choosing less active torrents. I can’t say much for how effective it is since I’ve never gotten hit so I can’t really experiment (I’ve had five or six ISPs in two different countries).
they literally just pirate the stuff themselves, see which IPs connect to them, then connect those to an ISP and notify them.
And I don’t even understand how this would hold up if it ever went to trial. How can an IP owner “pirate” their own IP? Even when they outsource it to services who do this they’re still giving permission for the IP to be distributed.
It’s like hiring someone to “steal” your own TV, putting it in a back alley and then accusing whoever takes it of being a thief.
It’s generally seen as okay on a similar level to undercover work. They do it for Investigation reasons, the torrent was already uploaded before they joined, their monitoring serves a legitimate law enforcement purpose, and they’re authorized by the copyright holder (themselves) to do it. They didn’t put the movie or whatever out there themselves.
After switching to torbrowser for all my questionable searches and downloads, I no longer get notices from my ISP for like 10 years now
ha. all of my traffic is encrypted and routed through at least 3 pirate friendly countries and servers that don’t keep logs. good fucking luck inspecting those packets.
Always make sure that QBT uses your VPN’s network interface. I got some DMCA emails despite split-tunneling a VPN recently, and I realized it was bound to all interfaces by default - that’s no good.
Better to just configure a firewall properly so that no packets can go outside of the vpn tunnel.
How is that better? If you configure your firewall rules incorrectly, this protects you against that. This ensures you have no connection if your VPN isn’t on/isn’t working.
Thats what the firewall rules do too, don’t allow internet connection if there’s no vpn connection.
Firewall is a system-wide solution that always works, while qbt config relies heavily on the application implementing interface binding properly. Which it doesn’t fully btw.
lol, they’ll have no customers! ISPs used to send ‘warning’ letters to customers in England but that’s all.
Same in the US.
I got one once from something I know for sure I didn’t download. I always assumed it was a friend of mine staying with us that was torrenting “Boss’s Daughter Big Booty XXX” or whatever it was, but I never really wanted to ask.
In the beginning we used to exchange cassettes. You would have a boombox with two cassettes. You would play one while you recorded on the other. Then you gave the cassette back to your friend. Next was the VCR with the big ass cassettes.
Then you would do the same with floppies, then zip disks. Then one day CD recording was a thing, then DVDs. Then thumb drives and now portable HDDs. Basically the cheapest form or recording is always the most popular way for people to share stuff.
The only ones who don’t want us to share are those who want to make millions by never innovating.
I couldn’t afford one of those fancy 2-cassette boomboxes, so I had my friend bring his tape deck and we put them real close together in the quietest room of the house and recorded that way. Having several siblings meant that there were no quiet places, so we used the empty garage when my parents were at work. The audio was autrocious, tons of echo and static, but I played that tape thin until it snapped.
