Rep. Al Green’s impeachment resolution was tabled on a 344-79 vote, with 128 Democrats joining all 216 Republicans to kill the measure.
The only time Dems and Republicans unite, is to say Israel is totally cool and we should give them more money…
I shouldn’t have to explain why that’s an issue.
But if you do, you’ll get cancelled.
Someone else told me the same thing earlier on a different comment…
And I just gotta disagree.
I’ve been criticizing Israel’s monetary relationship with American politicians for about 20 years now. Before Facebook was invented even.
Never been “cancelled”.
I didn’t want to explain it because I was being lazy. You can 100% talk about why it’s an issue, especially here. If you find yourself being “cancelled” then you may want to take a step back and re-evaluate what you are saying and looking into the validity of it.
I mean, right now we’re on one of the major communities on our instance, openly discussing it…
No one is being “cancelled”
Except for maybe these folks plus the people we don’t know about in El Salvador
Mahmoud Khalil • Syrian‑born Palestinian and legal U.S. permanent resident. • Detained by ICE on March 8, 2025 in New York—reportedly without a warrant—under a rarely used immigration law citing alleged national-security concerns tied to his activism. • Held at LaSalle Detention Center in Jena, Louisiana, for 104 days, separated from his family—including missing the birth of his son. • Released on June 20, 2025, after a federal judge deemed his detention unconstitutional, finding no flight risk or danger.
Mohsen Mahdawi • Palestinian U.S. green‑card holder and Columbia University student. • Arrested by ICE on April 14, 2025, at a citizenship interview in Vermont . • His detention prompted immediate habeas corpus filings; held in St. Albans, Vermont. • Released on April 30, 2025, after a federal judge determined his detention likely aimed to suppress free speech.
Plus this:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/06/michigan-university-gaza-surveillance
Not surprised, just disappointed. They’re all complicit
They’re all complicit
What?
79 voted for it, if you don’t think that’s fucking huge, you don’t understand how bad it’s been
Shit is improving, quickly even.
But like ~20% of the House openly and publicly going against Israel? Thats significant and the trend looks set to continue.
And I shouldn’t have to say this…
But ~80% is less than 100%, so no, it’s not “all”.
Have you considered that maybe “all” was referring to “all that voted against it” ?
Have you considered that my comment might have been intended to be the entire lyrics to 80s Belgium techno anthem Pump up the Jams?
Sometimes we have to take words at face value.
But that would change the entirety of what you wrote. Not the interpretation of a single word that is the same in both instances.
Like, obviously it’s not 100% of people in gov. But seriously, it’s the whole fucking thing. Rotten to the core.
This was not one of those times however. Mearly silly pentandtry.
Shit is improving, quickly even.
On what planet?
Didn’t the house already impeach him twice?
Yep…and it didn’t do much, because “impeach” does NOT mean “remove from presidency”. It can lead to that, but it’s like saying being written up at work is the same as being fired.
Right so why bother impeaching him anymore. It makes the legislative branch look like a bunch of idiots.
Because impeaching is step one in removing. Procedure matters in these things. The one President who was almost convicted (Nixon) left when it became clear that public opinion of him was going to force the Senate’s hand to convict him. It’s all political, but it’s the only legal mechanism that exists.
I really don’t think Trump cares about public opinion.
The government doesn’t work that way anymore. We’re not gonna Woodward and Bernstein our way out of this.
Also: since when does Trump care what’s legal?
They are a bunch of idiot.
Like the 60+ separate votes/bills to remove the ACA when Republicans didn’t have the support and here we are a few years later with them running the entire government.
Fucking traitors
How much proof do you need to understand they are working in concert to usher in an imperial fascist police state. The Democrats don’t oppose the Republicans, they oppose YOU. To them, YOU are the threat.
I think, given the huge leap you’ve made, I’m gonna need a little more proof.
Hanlon says hello.
In the context of defending our country from the ongoing fascist takeover, Democrats being too stupid to understand that they need to do something about it might be worse than actively supporting it so I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
If Democrats had actual power to do something about it then you’d have a great argument, but they’ve had 50 or less in the senate for more than a decade and Trump is in power with a plurality election result.
Even the impeachment trial never would have convinced 20 GOP senators to cross the aisle to remove Dump from office, it’s better to save it for later.
Stop making excuses. They have the filibuster and have used it once, against nothing.
They voted to remove David Hogg but not trump.
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Oh good to know the mods removed my comment talking about a troll. Good to know they stand with trolls when it benefits them .
[Looks at Congress not doing shit to Trump’s constant misuse of his powers]
Yeah sure, big leap. I’m sure they’re actually working on stopping him out of public view, just trust them to do the right thing next time.
Americans are the biggest cowards in the world.
What a fucking timeline, this is incredible 😳
Edit: and I don’t mean this in an insulting manner, I truly feel bad for them. Barbarians are taking over the Rome, everyone is fucked…
“Home of the braves, land of the free”
Home of the cowards, land of the slaves**
Land of the fee, home of the slave.
Friend of mine quipped they have so much, so they also have the most to lose. Unfortunately, they haven’t yet lost so much that it overcomes the dread of having to fight, so all you hear is people complaining on the internet.
They removed David Hogg from his position but vote to keep trump in his.
Hogg is a threat to the oligarchy whereas Trump, the entire Republican party, and most of the Democratic party are complicit in supporting it.
Roll call for this vote if you want to see how your representative voted and perhaps give them some feedback.
EDIT: The Clerk’s website went down earlier. When it came back up, it looks like they’re returning the wrong results. The vote to table the impeachment resolution was roll call #175, the number you see in the URL. It looks like it’s now displaying the results for roll call #178 on the page, a vote to adjourn. I’ve updated the link to an alternate view that seems to be returning the results for the correct vote, but please check the title of page in case this gets broken again.
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025175
Every Yea an enemy of the rule of law
That’s confusing, given all Republicans voted Nay.
Alternative link corroborating the original article: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/h175
I’m not sure what’s going on with the first link, but that website is impossible to navigate for me.
Nice so the site is down now what a joke
Holy crap - We have complicit Oligarchs and not a opposition party. We as the kids say - are cooked.
What exactly do you think the impeachment inquiry will accomplish with a Republican house and senate majority?
The same thing democrats accomplished when they had majorities in both houses. Keeping excuse makers busy.
Service unavailable on my end. I assume due to high demand, not censorship. I hope so at least.
Honestly at this point I feel like censorship is more likely than not.
AOC isn’t on the list?
I see her down in the O’s with a Nay vote. (Which, confusingly, is a vote in favor of impeachment, as the vote was to table the motion.)
Edit: I’ve removed the screenshot because the page is currently showing the wrong vote.
It seems like either they changed the page, or everyone is having trouble reading it (or maybe I am?).
Here’s AOC’s vote on that page, listed as “Yea” for “motion to adjourn”.The “Nay” vote is listed as winning, but everything about this feels backward, so I’m not sure what to make of it.They’re no longer serving up the correct vote. The vote to table the impeachment was roll call #175, you can see the number in the URL. It looks like they’re now showing the votes for roll call #178, a vote to adjourn.
EDIT: this link seems to be working better https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2025/roll175.xml
Thank you!
Another user posted a different link for the actual vote.
She is. Nay vote
So she voted No to impeach? Fucking for real.
This was a vote to table. A no vote is a vote for impeachment, or at least continue the process toward it.
no, the vote was whether to ignore the impeachment, so “no” is the correct vote here
I’m confused… all the Republicans voted nay? What am I missing?
Not sure what’s going on with that website–maybe it going down earlier messed things up? Here’s another (much easier to read) source which corroborates the original article: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/h175
The law is clear. It doesn’t matter if it’s politically convenient or likely to succeed. If the President breaks the law, which Trump clearly has, they must be impeached.
2025 America is a post-law country.
At least for the rich and powerful
Always been for the rich and powerful, 2025 isn’t new territory for them.
It’s new that they aren’t even pretending to play by the same rules
That’s fair!
The law means nothing if you’re not willing to enforce it.
Call your representative and tell them you won’t vote for them if they don’t support impeachment.
would ya baby?
The political system is completely fucked. I think going grassroots with direct action is currently the best way to both resist, and build horizontal decentralized power that isn’t prone to corruption.
- find local communities and get involved to make connections
- We can effect things drastically with a general strike. This targets the establishment’s income streams, and can bring a fascist government to its knees if done on a large enough scale.
- Contact a union and attempt to unionize your workplace so that the general strike is even more effective (plus, ya know, better pay and working conditions as a bonus!)
This method would not only work in the US, but anywhere in the world.
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- 🇦🇷 Argentina: FORA
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- 🇧🇬 Bulgaria: ARS, CITUB
- 🇩🇪 Germany: FAU
- 🇬🇷 Greece: ESE
- 🇮🇹 Italy: USI
- 🇳🇱 🇧🇪 Netherlands & Belgium: Vriji Bond
- 🇪🇸 Spain: CNT
- 🇸🇪 Sweden: SAC
- 🇬🇧 United Kingdom: UVW
- Continuing to participate in publicly visible resistance demonstrations like 50501 (the next one is July 17th) to encourage others to stand up with you and prove to that there are millions of others who will join them in the fight. A large part of Nazi Germany’s success in taking over the country was a lack of massive public demonstrations against the new regime, making people feel helpless and afraid to take a stand.
If we put in the work, we can resist this and we can win. Look at how effective these methods were when used in Chile in 2019.. If we completely reject the political system and rebel on a mass scale, there is NOTHING they can do to stop us.
Oh yeah cause it went so well for Chile. There was a government turnover and it fragmented the political parties so much that no one can agree on anything anymore.
Oh and the new people in power are learning by improvising.
Source: I am from Chile.
I don’t disagree that it ended badly, but had the movement not been pacified by the government’s bait of reform and a new constitution, it could’ve been revolutionary.
Your people showed the incredible potential of collective power and collective civil disobedience. The documentary shows both the victories, and the failures to learn from, just as Hong Kong did.
Oh yeah cause it went so well for Chile.
Coups can be resisted.
If by coup you mean the rich trying to get richer, yeah the resistance worked.
The problem came afterwards, when the people were handed the power to actually change something it became a circus.
So the rich didn’t get the chance to make ridiculous changes like in the US right now. But all we were left with was status quo.
No I meant the literal cia-backed coup
Revolution in the streets everyone! Let’s go if they don’t want change we will give them change.
It’s just like in the playground; almost everybody want to stand up to the bully, but nobody has the guts. They are afraid the bully will call them names or attack. And when finally one does stand up, the others cowers in a corner.
Ah, the Geronocrats. Always been a disappointment throughout my entire life, before and after I became eligible to vote.
TBH I think they’re right. It has zero chance to result in removal. It has zero chance of passing either house of congress. It just ends up being an ineffective gesture. Save it for when you have some chance of actually changing something.
And why does it have zero chance? Could it be because they oppose it, instead of supporting it? Imagine all Democrats stood together on this and they could get a few Reps over. Even if it would fail, they would send a signal of unity and standing up for what is right, which could get them back some voters the disgruntled with the whole genocide and appeasing fascism thing.
But no, they double down on it.
And why does it have zero chance?
Gerrymandering in the House and vote caging in the Senate, combined with a media that’s the mouthpiece of genocidal billionaires, guarantee Republicans a permanent advantage in Congress no matter how unpopular their leadership becomes.
Imagine all Democrats stood together on this and they could get a few Reps over.
Hardly have to image. That’s exactly what occurred in 2019 and 2021. All the Republicans who defected got primaried out and replaced with MAGAts. Dems who played footsie with your Liz Cheneys and Jeff Flakes ended up poisoning their own electoral campaigns and losing supporters. The horse trading between centrist Dems and Repubs backfired colossally, as the legislature could only do shit people hated, while Nancy and Chuck whined about needing bipartisanship to Beat Trump.
Then Biden took office, Merrick Garland refused to press charges of any sort, and Trump scampered off Scott free to run again in four years.
It has zero chance because while is there is already plenty that Trump could be impeached on, and I wish he were, this particular thing is not one of them.
For one, because the misconduct named in the impeachment is something every president in the 21st century at least has done (military strikes with congressional approval), which makes it a lot harder to justify it as an impeachable offense to people more concerned with law than finding any excuse to try to punish Trump.
and they could get a few Reps over
The entire Republican party is on board with Trump. There is zero chance of this happening.
Fuck that.
Of course it has no chance of passing. That has absolutely no bearing on future attempts to impeach the dictator which also will have no chance of passing.
But you know what voting against it does? It tells the American People that the democrats in office support trump completely shitting on everything and unilaterally joining israel in a war.
And how is doing nothing any better? We are literally on the precipice of authoritarianism yet we are still trying to find the right time. People are literally getting picked up off the streets, we are baselessly bombing countries for Israel, we have the national guard and Marines being sent to cities, we are imposing tariffs on our allies, the president is actively and blatantly accepting bribes, we have an incompetent cabinet that is dismantling everything they see, we have a “big beautiful bill” that will ruin people’s lives, we had DOGE hijack all of our data, we have tourists being detained for social media posts, we have people being detained for their free speech, and we have masked men pointing guns at citizens that refuse to identify themselves. So, when is the right time? Is it when it specifically affects them for once? Because if they have to wait that long than we are all fucked.
It passed the House last time. He’s slowly losing the support of the Republicans. It could pass the Senate.
All signs are that he still has enough dirt and genuine threats to browbeat the republicans when it matters. There is a lot of argument toward making him do that rather than just assuming he will but that would involve the fucking democrats doing anything.
The only “hope” will be IF we have fair midterm elections and there is a blue wave. Suddenly “only trump can get you reelected” will be forgotten (or, more pointedly, they’ll remember how he has never been able to do that…) and it will just be the die hards who know there is footage of them doing Whatever in moscow.
Trying for impeachment is still doing something as opposed to sitting around waiting for someone else to do the job.
Let’s say my family is massively in debt. All the other members of my family are trying to find work, or going to local food banks, or planning a budget.
Meanwhile, I am using my time to scrounge in thrift stores and rub every lamp I can find to try to find a genie and magically wish everything better.
You may think my actions are useless, and a waste of time, and that I’m childish for believing it will accomplish anything; but I’m “still doing something as opposed to sitting around” and that makes it OK, right?
They all wanted to bomb Iran anyway
