Saw him play recently in Alabama. They were selling this phrase on a shirt. Much to my surprise, that shirt was sold out by the time I went to pick it up. I was pleasantly shocked.
Saw someone wearing that shirt in a shopping mall in the UK!
$50 each no doubt
That’s how bands make most of their money in the streaming era and with ticketmaster raking in a big chunk of the ticket sales despite not providing much.
They could just play shows at venues not owned by Ticketmaster
Good luck with that
That’s a super naive take.
Lmao why?
My buddy bought tickets to a ratm show. He had no one to go with so he invited me. We got there and were bombarded with Pepsi, lysol, and tons of other brand advertising projected on every wall of the massive stadium owned by a billionaire. We waiting for an hour while the advertisements wore our souls down to nothing
Then when the show finally starts it turns out most of the people there are complaining about how political the band has gotten.
Maybe when your ticket prices START at $150, you may not be the band of the people you thought you were.
That doesn’t mean they have to play at their venues. They have enough money that they could just post up in an empty field somewhere.
The only viable solution when Nazis take control of government is violence. There is no reasoning with them, they are not logical.
This is correct, and also, Nazis don’t care about good faith argumentation. They’re explicitly anti-liberal (as in, liberty, freedom) and will only pretend to have these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction (“You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?”)
In this video of former white supremacists talking about how they left the ideology, one brings up that on their Nazi website, it was normal and common to argue for points they knew were garbage, like the Great Replacement theory. It’s about power and results, not liberalist idealism.
Violent methods usually aren’t the preferred way of dealing with Nazis (because it’s harder to get a mass movement to join in and support it, and because it’s riskier, legally, which makes it harder to sustain), but it works. It broke up the BUF in Britain, it’s kept the local turds scared to show their faces or reveal their true thoughts (don’t worry, they still usually get revealed by researchers anyway). Violence works. They know it and we know it. But when they’re the government, their violence is now legal.
these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction (“You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?”)
Nazis want to take that freedom
Of course, but it’s there now and they’re happy to abuse it. Call them hypocrites all you want, they couldn’t care less.
Im well aware. Fuck em
Nazis deserve exactly as much mercy and tolerance as they give to others.
Violence against Nazis isnt the answer, its a question and the answer is always yes.
I’ll upvote Tom Morello anytime
The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.
In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.
Edit - My mistake, I somehow was blind to the first in-.
In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.
No we musn’t. The intolerant have broken the social contract and are no longer extended that latitude.
