Because english is just semi random noises
Truer words were never spoken.
Most languages are, but english goes out of its way in being phonetically retarded
My favorite example is the word “yacht”
Ghoti
Gh (f) as in enough,
O (í) as in women,
TI (sh) as in motion
Pronounced: Fish
Make it “Ghoti” with GH as in enough
Thanks for the idea, will do!
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Wait there are people who pronounce women with an i?
Yes? English is only my second language, but the way I hear it:
Woman: Whoman
Women: Wimin or Wimen
The latter is much shorter.
Huh, for me it’s more like wuhmen vs wohman.
The i-pronunciation is commonplace enough that some feminists who want to avoid the word “men” spell “women” as “wimmin”, i.e. the phonetic spelling.
Interesting. I associate the “wimmin” spelling with Terry Pratchett’s writing, where it’s used in the speech of lower/middle-class men, implying casual/uninformed objectification.
Am I the only one who pronounces them both with an I sound
Both with an O here.
Are the two obviously differentiated like that?
In most of the American English accents I’m familiar with, they’re pronounced “WI men” and “WŌ man.”
If I try to sound out using an I in both, the only way they sound different to me is if I move the accent to the final syllable, to mane it stand out. Something like “wi MEN” vs “wi MAN.”
If so, I’d love to hear where you’re from.
From Ohio, and they aren’t differntiated at all I just pronounce them the same (although I was mistaken about which part of the word the meme was referencing, I still pronounce both with an o/u sound at the beginning)
I think the meme is referring to the first vowel.
Your reply helped me understand what on earth was happening. I was like “wimin and wimen?!”
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Same, i think its a regional thing.
My dad always pronounced it “getbackinthekitchen”
More like woe-men am I right fellas
Do the sandwich joke next pls it’s a banger
Woman… woe-man… whoah, man!
She was a thief,
you got to belief,
she stole my heart and my cat.
Betty,
Judy,
Josie and those hot Pussycats…
They make me horny,
Saturday morny. Girls of cartoo-ins. Won’t leave me in ruins.
I want to to be Betty’s Barney.Hey Jane… get me off this crazy thing… called love.
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Yes. Because I’m obviously serious with that comment…
If it’s supposed to be a joke, it’s certainly not funny…
Not to you. And that’s ok.
I see that this joke is satire, making fun of those people now. Which is fine, just not my cup of tea since I grew up with people who actually believed that and weren’t using it sarcastically.
Dude there’s a difference between making a racist joke and making a joke about a racist
Man in old English was gender neutral and Women were Wifmon (from were we get wife) and men Werman (where we get the were in werewolf). So literally wife-man and man-man.
So the wi in women makes sense. I don’t know were the wo noise came in though.
Wiktionary is good for the dirty details usually. Looks like it’s more complicated than it seems: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/woman#Usage_notes
I think it’s a matter of accent and Dialekt. I pronounce both the same🤷
Wimmen? You’re just saying it wrong.
English not being my first language, I can relate to that thought 😅
It was originally wifman and over time mutated to women, the I sound is vestigial of the old spelling.
Wait people pronounce them differently. I’ve been saying it the same way.😭
Same here and I’m a native NA English speaker
We probably just nicked the words from different languages.
Also correct if he’s thinking about cute dogs / cats / other animals that have more than 1 female in the group.
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for the love of God please someone google what a schwa is before replying
For the love of God are you referring to the first or second vowel? People seem to think OP is talking about the second
I was just shitposting while high. but the real question isn’t “why are they pronounced differently?” but “why are they written the same?”
Woman is an ellison of wīfmann
Man is an abbreviation of wermann
“Mann” meaning “human” and wīf/wer meaning “female/male”
No one asks why “man and men” are pronounced differently, and it’s likely we’d have “wermann / wermen” pronounced “wur-man” and “wier-men” if we’d kept the distinction.
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