• @Saff@lemmy.ml
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    442 years ago

    Well…over a million marched in London to put a stop to Brexit and it didn’t do anything. Considering this conflict is even less so under the control of the British government I’m not sure what this march will do a damn thing.

    • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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      232 years ago

      So tired of “protests are useless” posting. There are good ways to make a critique of a movements but this is not it.

      The past decade around the globe protest movements exploded into radical restructuring of various countries’ way of governing. This particular protest doesn’t seem like it will evolve into that, but no one ever predicted the outcome of past eruptions.

      A protest isn’t a reliable or advisable way to create a revolution, but they are still great organizing opportunities and solidarity building events.

      Please stop with the nihilism

        • @IbnLemmy@feddit.uk
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          132 years ago

          I did look at a map. Gaza is by the sea, and west bank is by the river. Gaza and west bank will be free, doesn’t make a great slogan. Frome the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, makes a great slogan

          How is that antisemitic?

            • @IbnLemmy@feddit.uk
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              I don’t know why you are getting so defensive and upset. Also not sure why you think I’m trying to achieve something. Is anyone who defends Palestine some sort of shadowy sinister bearded brown Hamas supporter?

              Christ, go touch some grass.

              The slogan is used by many pro palestinian supporters, and I’m trying understand why so offensive or is this yet another case of culture bullying by pro Israeli zealots.

              And your German example makes no sense. Are you comparing people who want an end to the genocide of an entire people to far right German nazis?

              Do go out and touch some grass…

        • @crapwittyname@lemmy.ml
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          182 years ago

          It’s not “from the river to the sea, murder all Jews”, though, now is it?
          Seems a bit of a leap, what you’re saying there?

          • @Syldon@feddit.uk
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            62 years ago

            I never said I used it or made any assumptions. This is how some see its inference, which answers the posters question.

            • @crapwittyname@lemmy.ml
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              You said “it is”. And it’s still a huge leap to infer that the call for freedom of Palestine would require the mass murder of anyone.
              The chant doesn’t say anything about harming anyone, and it doesn’t say that Palestine is/shall be the only territory between the river and the sea.
              This whole furore about the chant is devoid of logic.

              • @Syldon@feddit.uk
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                22 years ago

                Pretty pathetic pedantism. You need more things to entertain yourself with my friend.

            • @crapwittyname@lemmy.ml
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              32 years ago

              It’s not Lebensraum though. Palestinians are literally being oppressed.
              Why are you likening the Palestinian struggle for freedom from oppression to the genocidal machinations of the third Reich?

          • devz0r
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            OK, well, “all lives matter” doesn’t mean “black lives don’t matter” BUT we all know what they actually mean. It’s called a dogwhistle. “from the river to the season” is also a dogwhistle, because the term comes from Palestinian organizations and people that want to wipe Israel off the map. You COULD just say “one-state” but that doesn’t have the fun wink-wink that a dogwhistle has.

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        Because it is not enough to simply stop carpet bombing of civilians. If you want to truly stop the violence, that involves eventually giving Palestinians full citizenship and civil rights on the same level as Jews instead of forcing them to live in ghettoes. That’s how a free society works. Until Israel does that there can be no true peace. A separate Palestinian state is not an option because of all the illegal (under international law) Jewish settlements in the west bank making a border impossible to maintain.

        Once again, apartheid is itself violence. That’s what the slogan is rallying against

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky
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    22 years ago

    Not really related to the articles but the little article image thumbnail thing kinda looks like an angry eye.

      • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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        In Canada they got in huge trouble over a standing ovation for a “Ukrainian war hero” who fought communism as a member of, uh oh, the S.S.

    • @IbnLemmy@feddit.uk
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      22 years ago

      No mate, what’s your point? Are you seriously comparing Israel to Russia, you antisemite you…