Why are so many people racist against indians? This thread is a good example.
I’m an instance admin and see heaps of the same stuff being posted. Pretty sure it’s one lonely troll not lots of people. Even in this thread, it’s all one user account not lots of different people, but we see the same stuff posted across lots of brand new accounts in a very similar way.
Well, up to 2 people now. But yeah, I get your point. Some people just suck
Makes sense. Even then a lot of the troll’s comments are upvoted by a few people. There are definitely a few people here who share the troll’s extreme opinions. Thanks for doing your part in removing all these bullshit. I wish lemmy had a way to block account creation by IP addresses. That might stop trolls from making dozens of alt accounts.
We very often see the same username created across many instances, it’s very easy to do and Lemmy has no protections against it. Plus, there are no protections against creating multiple accounts to upvote your own posts (don’t get any ideas 😆). IP blocks wouldn’t work as instances are entirely independent, so there is no sharing of IP info across different instances.
Currently there is at least some level of coordination across instances, though, such as Lemmy.world’s Defense HQ, where instance admins can share info about spammers/trolls so we don’t have to wait for a report from one of our own users. There’s also Fediseer, but this protects against spam instances not spam accounts on mainstream instances.
Defense hq? Can I have a link might prove useful
Sure! It’s on the decentralised chat platform Matrix, which has heaps of lemmy stuff. If you need further instructions, feel free to ask 🙂
Alright fanks m8
there are no protections against creating multiple accounts to upvote your own posts
They don’t even have to be real accounts. Lemmy uses the ActivityPub protocol, and nothing’s stopping someone from creating an ActivityPub server that federates with a Lemmy instance and spams upvotes from randomly-generated usernames. The server could just pretend that every username is a valid one.
Of course, I think something like that would be defederated pretty quickly.
Yes, there’s fediseer that can help with that sort of thing. However, I think if it wasn’t spam, it may not get noticed as quick as you’d think. Create a lemmy.world account, post a meme, and use your special server to throw 50 or 100 upvotes at it, and probably no one would realise.
We very often see the same username created across many instances
Guilty as charged. I’ll say though, there are several legitimate reasons why one might want to do this. I personally use it as a substitute for Reddit’s multireddit feature, by grouping community subscriptions across different instances by theme. As long as users use the same username across instances I don’t think this practice should be automatically regarded as an attempt to sockpuppet. It that was the goal, the accounts would definitely not be using the same username across all the instances.
Personally I have accounts on multiple instances because I wanted to make communities in different languages and some instances focus a lot more on one language than others and also because the SFW instances defederated the NSFW ones. I do not really interact with the same posts though.
That’s what I used to love so much about reddit. NSFW and regular content on the same platform. No judgment.
Though the quality has really gone downhill since the people that really did it for exhibitionism reasons got overshadowed by the enormous wave of people trying to spam their onlyfans :(
Monetisation kills everything, not just on the platform side but also the content-generator side.
I didn’t intend to imply that by using the same username across instances you were breaking some sort of rule. Different instances have different moderation policies, different federation policies, and different intents. Having multiple accounts in good faith should not be an issue and was not what I was trying to imply.
Rather, the intention was to show that we know bad actors do this with nefarious intent. Here’s an example (they show zero comments as they have been banned with content removed - also I think these ones only had posts not comments anyway):
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The problem is that would also ban anyone else who might be on the same IP. VPN, Tor exit node, public WiFi etc. Nothing beats a well staffed moderation team and other users willing to report abuse IMO.
Indians are present in big numbers on reddit and other websites due to how populated India is, how english is popular there and that they aren’t contained in national platforms like their chinese neighbors. It makes them noticeable for bigots to single them out and target. Just because they want someone to hate and laugh at to up their self-esteem.
riiiight it’s not like they use their population to push lies, distort the truth and not push their extreme caste hatred elsewhere.
It makes them noticeable for bigots to single them out and target.
it’s actually the opposite. one indian guy pushes a lie that puts india in a better light and almost every indian votes the post or comment to the top. anyone pointing out the truth is buried by the nationalistic brigade.
Racism is bad, using the ignorant populace to push lies is bad too.
Do you think the government itself is involved here, or is it just volunteers? Did it occur to fediverse? I think here you are talking about reddit, right?
I’m not Indian and all I’ve seen lately are news about how bad their ecological and ethnic situations under Modi are. I’ve heard of something named like r/chodi, but mostly from drama write-ups. What’s the scale of brigading we are talking about?
I think it’s due to the stereotypes and the bad experiences, I’ve had pretty bad experiences with indians in gaming (racist, annoying, begging) and work (incompetent, corrupt, etc), but I’ve also seen that from other people with different backgrounds, more importantly though is that I’ve also seen some amazing tutorials in YouTube from Indian peeps and I’ve also found some great repos from Indian devs as well.
Probably trolls looking for attention and engagement. But not being aware that their comments does hurt someone.
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I’ve talked about it many times before this. Both on Reddit and here on Lemmy. From my POV, apart from the shithead trolls, it basically boils down to Indians not being historically oppressed by Americans. Black people, Mexicans, Chinese, all have at some point been targeted by mainstream American politics. Indians, not so much. Yes, some do look down on us simply because we’re not white, but there’s never been any sort of nationwide anti-Indian sentiment in US. (I’m sticking to US, since that’s what most of the bigotry seems to come from.) Therefore, the so called liberal minded people don’t really care about this stuff.
I’m so happy to see that people in Lemmy actually care about this, but in Reddit the hate against Indians is rampant. You (rightly) can’t say anything racist against black people, but anything against Indians is usually fair game.
Why are so many people racist against indians?
Because your race consists of scamming and lying “people” who have no concept of hygiene. You smell like poop and look utterly repulsive. The world would be better if india is nuked.
Reported this filth, just saying.
Ok pajeet
No one asked you
Well to be fair, you did. And he’s the perfect answer to your question, as an example to why some people are racist: They’re simply dumb.
Are you an adult?
Glad that there are govt. level systems who make use of Linux (mostly ubuntu ) systems here. For eg. , in kerala, all govt schools and colleges use linux for computer labs and academic activities, i guess the local body administration too use ubuntu.
Only wish we could convince those private sector schools of the money they’ll save converting those slow windows systems to linux.
Problem with private schools is most likely the training investment required. They can’t as easily replace IT team and/or CS teachers with those who can handle Linux
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Not necessarily, the management tools and techniques are similar
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August 2022
Old data, man.
It’s even better now.Those wild spikes don’t give me a lot of confidence in the data
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That explains the popularity of “unknown OS” but not why it swings so wildly
This makes alot of sense I’ll imagine the folk using Linux aren’t using it out of choice but out of necessity due to linux being kinder to older hardware
Uhm what’s re they using for this report… I would have assumed they would have gone with just taking the User Agent and similar which I guess that wouldn’t matter on the modifications you say.
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Yeah sure but you usually fake a real existing one so it would go into one of the categories not the Unknown.
The biggest spikes look like the correspond to new year. So my guess is that the spikes are vacations and show the difference between home PC and office PC usage.
You can see the same spikes on e.g. Googles IPv6 chart - when people are away from work IPv6 penetration goes up, when people are at work it goes down.
Damn, that’s a lot, and within a year too!
Also, at least half of that ‘unknown’ is probably Linux too.
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Also consider the number of people in India. There is a massive Linux user base there.
Imagine the smell
I don’t have to, you stink from just this comment.
Unknown is TempleOS.
But, it has no network connectivity! That is against God’s will.
(Thus, no telemetry either)
Very interesting os though. Lots of very cool concepts
That’s more for the Christian fellas, I think.
As an Indian myself this makes me happy :D
Beware that what OP posted is old data. India is over 14% on Linux as of October 2023.
How was this measured? Just asking cause a lot of PCs are sold with Linux there cause it’s cheaper and the user immediately slaps a pirated Windows on after purchase.
Browser stats.
Based india
In Canada, Apple is taking most of the increase, I wish Linux was more prevalent but I’m happy to see the downward slope for Windows:
I just hope asahi Linux takes of because the M3 looks sick but I’ll be fucked if I get sucked into the apple ecosystem. I’d rather be forced to use Windows on arm.
And from 2026 thanks to Microsoft it will raise more as I can’t possibly imagine everyone buying new computers just for windows 11
Me neither, but what I can imagine is people running an unsupported OS forever, like they did with XP and probably 7
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That is impressive since the world share for Linux is something below 4%. So the uptake is over double of that of the rest of the world.
Makes sense, when I check new distro/apps videos on YT, something like 70% of them are made by Indian people.
How it could be 15% for some unknown OS?
My guess is click farms with some unknown custom made os that skew that data?
That also might be a source of Linux users hence the relatively high market share of the OS?
Not to mention that India still has a lot of call centers (some for scams) that may use Linux because it’s free (compared to a windows license)
A lot of people who work in those call centres are uneducated and don’t know shit about tech, they’re only parroting off a script. In those call centres they use windows 7 still and don’t even know about the existence of linux. Also piracy is big in India so they don’t care if linux is free. And most of all their victims/“customers”(old people) don’t use linux so they have no reason to either. It’s just the fellow Indian nerds using Linux.
Yeah, if you look at some of those YouTube channels that scam the scammers, you’ll usually see that the scammers are all running Windows.
I saw one where a guy used linux mint and the scammer used the usual tree command but other than that he knew fuck all what he was doing. He was tryna look for notepad. It was hilarious
Statcounter works by collecting and processing user agent strings from browsers accessing sites that use their analytics. Unknows OSes are probably the ones who don’t give that info.
Thank you India
Welcome to the circlejerk thread
What?
Our monthly jerkoff to Linux numbers
Nah. The data is from 2022. Still milking last year’s numbers
