• Pons_Aelius
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    582 years ago

    Yes. They both did.

    Google came to prominence because it sidestepped the first gen SEO of keywords.

    Then it became a bloated corp run by MBAs.

    SEO took off and it did little to nothing as its search platform was now there to deliver eye balls to advertisers.

  • @popproxx@sh.itjust.works
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    Many things have ruined the Internet, corporate greed, the proliferation of low quality content, paywalls, advertising, websites infested with user registration, AI, bots, shitty web page builders, etc… This was such a great article except the alligator was only five and a half feet long.

    • Albin JoseOP
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      I think it’s not in our hand. We can only hide annoyances by a content blocker.

    • @ErilElidor@feddit.de
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      I started using Kagi. By paying for the search engine, at least I can ensure the search engine’s goals align with mine, instead of with whoever pays most for advertisement. I haven’t used it for a long time yet, but so far I’m satisfied with its results!

      • interolivary
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        I’ve been using Kagi for about half a year now, and I’ve definitely been very happy with it. As you pointed out, the fact that you pay for it with actual money and not with your attention (ie. ad views) means that they actually have an incentive to show you good results instead of endless walls of spammy links that lead to pages using their ad network.

        People don’t seem to realize that Google’s not a search engine company with an ad network, but an ad network company with a search engine: the ads pay for all of Google’s services, so they’re incentivized to fill your search results with bullshit that you have to dig through, but that uses their ad network – every useless spam link you have visit when looking for the thing you actually searched for means more 💰 for Google.

        The fact that so many big online services are ad-funded has led to the situation where people seem to believe that we’re entitled to have everything for free online. While open source projects run by volunteers are definitely a thing (as is obvious considering where we are), I don’t think it’s reasonable to assume that every online service should have rely on voluntary donations and volunteer work, and that developers should work on your free pet service during their time off from their actual work

          • @stella@lemm.ee
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            It sounds like you’re being taken advantage of without realizing it and trying to get others to do the same.

    • @stella@lemm.ee
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      Use different services.

      We’re already in the process of fixing it by using Lemmy instead of reddit.

      • @saigot@lemmy.ca
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        Something that has been SEO’d for Google is still going to feature prominantly on ddg or bing. There are other reasons to switch off Google, but seo isn’t going to stop being a problem.

    • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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      I did a word search of the article and capitalism wasn’t mentioned once. How can we heal the illness if no one can mention the disease.

  • MudMan
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    That article downplays SEO and mostly argues that Google is responsible, and it still gives Google way too much credit. I mean, it’s gonna take a lot more evidence to make me believe they broke the internet by accident, for one. People knew all this crap would happen before Google was even a thing.

  • @stella@lemm.ee
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    42 years ago

    I noticed something was wrong when every article repeated what I was asking as many times as possible.

    They’re all pretty much written in the same style now, and it’s next to impossible to find the actual information you’re looking for under all the bullshit.

    I don’t blame SEO ‘experts’ or Google. I blame greed.

    • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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      right, we’re all guilty – not the powers that be that enabled it in the first place with the sole aim of fleecing the masses

  • @HollandJim@lemmy.world
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    Why is it “or”…? It’s as if the Verge has lost the ability to write a non-clickbait title.

    And the answer is “both have” of course. The folks who make the game are as guilty as those who played it.

  • @blindsight@beehaw.org
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    I think this 8000+ word article’s length is indicative of the “real” answer: it’s complicated.

    I read the whole thing. Lots of great personalities and examples spanning from AltaVista to Large Language models and everything in between.

    I think the quote that resonated with me the most, to summarize this article’s main thesis in a sound bite, was this:

    You can’t just be the most powerful observer in the world for two decades and not deeply warp what you are looking at

    In essence, it’s the fault of having a dominant algorithm dictating what the Internet “is”. Google is the tool most people use for most of their information seeking. Thus, getting a high ranking from Google is the difference between success and failure.

    imho, the only real solution is decentralization. Federated services, local newspapers, new search engines, idk.

    And yet, Google is still my default search engine. So I’m part of the problem.

  • @corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works
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    the people who ruined the internet are the people. google, internet users and product owners have mutually adversarial relationships, so relying on google all this time naturally led to this.

  • vlad
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    12 years ago

    It was the unholy marriage of the two