Israel’s strike on the Jabalia refugee camp has led to more intense pushback from the Biden administration.

  • BigFig
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    692 years ago

    Here’s how that exchange will go.

    Israel: yes we bombed that refugee camp

    US: Oh okay. Here’s 2 billion more tax monies, carry on

    • Tygr
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      Billions being spent and everyone will wonder why inflation continues to hold strong a year from now.

      • @sudoshakes@reddthat.com
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        102 years ago

        I would love if you could explain the connection between these two things.

        I have my macroeconomics books from college at hand, so so please take your time to be detailed as I won’t dislike reviewing my notes.

        Narrator: there is nothing about spending 0.001% of GDP on foreign aid that is of significant impact to inflationary pressures, and OP is speaking out of their ass. To the point where when they fart it sounds like a god damn jazz band.

        • Tygr
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          62 years ago

          It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize every dollar printed out of thin air devalues existing dollars in the marketplace.

          How much GDP does this equate to? _ According to the Cost of War project at Brown University, the failed global “war on terror” cost $8 trillion and caused more than 900,000 deaths over the course of 20 years._

          • @sudoshakes@reddthat.com
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            What does the total sum of all funds spent for the last 20 years on GWOT have to do with foreign aid budgeted spending in 2023 to Israel?

            These aren’t in the same budget category. The tax dollars spent on GWOT had significant effect in the United States ability to borrow as a government due to national debt increases, but that impact is seen directly in the increasing yearly amounts of tax revenue spent to repay that debt, not directly to inflation. Show me correlation in the first ten years of GWOT to CPI?

            So let me get this right. You believe spending, as allocated in the budget for a fiscal year, in a category you do not even understand the limits of, for amounts you need to calculate in fractions of a percent of the budget, is a worthy mention of impact on inflationary pressure?

            One where you improperly equate it with printing more money as a federal reserve economic control device, and assume aid = printed dollars instead of the majority of which is already existing assets in storage where packages are given dollar values for their worth?

            Lol.

            Continue to make loud noises out of thy ass while making false equivalence.

  • Limitless_screaming
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    Hamas made me do it. The bloodstains on the walls are just ketchup and the children getting dragged from under the rubble are just paid actors. Please get your current president to condemn Hamas and give us a shout out, thanks.

    • ivanafterall
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      Hamas bombed the refugee camp. We know what we initially said, but that was bad intelligence, also from Hamas. We have since learned that a stray rocket from Hamas was responsible for this and all future attacks on the refugee camp, of which there will be, shall we say, several.

  • @Sooperstition@lemmy.one
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    212 years ago

    Ah yes, the courageous stand of “I demand answers in a strongly-worded letter!” will surely stop the genocide of Palestinians

    What a spineless bunch of fucks.

  • @AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    "Because we can.

    Now run along and give us more fucking money to bomb more refugees, or we’ll tell your constituents back home you’re an antisemite. Off you go."

  • @atk007@lemmy.world
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    US: Israel, why did you b?

    Israel: Shut up Bitch.

    US: Sorry, here is more money.

    Edit: shit, I just saw someone had already made a similar comment but better.

  • fiat_lux
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    It’s a stark contrast of response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It turns out there are limits to the “right to self defence” and those are mostly governed by public narrative.

    Sadly, it’s only the people in the disputed territories and their families that truly suffer consequences for their decision to salt the earth.

    • @APassenger@lemmy.world
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      52 years ago

      First strike does matter, though.

      It can’t be the only thing that matters, but in both, our initial support went to the one attacked*.

      • some may argue there is no first attack and I’m not unsympathetic to the point. It’s just not the prevailing narrative.
      • @mlg@lemmy.world
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        72 years ago

        Not saying this isn’t important, but like literally every time hamas decides to do something this comes up.

        If you consider how and why hamas was created, then no they aren’t really the first strike. That would have been Israel back in 1949.

        Not that it would have changed much in terms of USA support had it been the other way around, but first strike really needs to be not taken as some auto indicator of who is wrong, especially now that countries have figured out how easy it is to run false flags for publicity.

        tbf though, I think this is the first time hamas ever launched a surprise attack that wasn’t a direct response for a recent event.

    • @atk007@lemmy.world
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      52 years ago

      Yup, After a year long campaign to support Ukraine against Russian occupation, I have witnessed this change of tune too, and now suddenly living under occupation and fighting your oppressor is wrong.

  • DarkGamer
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    Israeli forces have already released explanations regarding these strikes to the press:

    First strike:

    An Israel Defense Forces statement said the strike on Jabalia, Gaza’s largest refugee camp, had killed Ibrahim Biari. It said he was a ringleader of what it called the “murderous terror attack” on Oct. 7.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-says-it-fires-israeli-troops-pressing-gaza-ground-assault-2023-10-31/

    Second strike:

    The Israeli military said its fighter jets struck a Hamas command and control complex in Jabalia “based on precise intelligence,” killing the head of the Islamist group’s anti-tank missile unit, Muhammad A’sar.
    “Hamas deliberately builds its terror infrastructure under, around and within civilian buildings, intentionally endangering Gazan civilians,” an Israeli statement said.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-military-jets-strike-gaza-camp-says-hamas-commander-killed-2023-11-01/

    It seems like the US wants some press showing they are concerned, I would be surprised if they didn’t already know exactly what is happening and why.

    • TinyPizzaOP
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      Oh good, pack it in everyone, the murderers said it was OK that they killed a bunch of innocent people.

      • @Shyfer@ttrpg.network
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        It’s like when bank robbers take a hostage everyone knows the standard protocol is to kill everyone in the building to get them.

        • TinyPizzaOP
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          “The Negotiator” would have apparently been a very different movie had it been produced in Israel. I wonder who the recast gets to replace Kevin Spacey?

        • DarkGamer
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          Because a bank robbery is just like war between governments…? Collateral damage is a lot more common, normal, and acceptable in war than it is in police actions.

  • BabyWah
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    Fuck the US (government not people) at this point. The hypocrisy is just vile.