• Pxtl
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    1892 years ago

    Oh good, I thought this was about the Linux distro.

  • enkers
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    1602 years ago

    Thank god, I thought this was about the herb.

  • @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    I used to use Mint before they got acquired, I stopped in 2012ish for security concerns because back then the way you connected was just giving them your password.

    Also it broke all the time and my student loans got stuck while my checking accounts didn’t so it ruined my net worth chart which was like 80% of why I liked it.

    But, shame it’s shutting down even if I didn’t like it I’m sure it was useful to others.

  • YⓄ乙
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    562 years ago

    Lol comments are hilarious. Everyone thinking of a different Mint

    • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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      YNAB is a waste of money imo. It’s literally just a spreadsheet with a bunch of mumbo jumbo to justify you paying for it while still manually doing all the work.

      • @bitsplease@lemmy.ml
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        42 years ago

        The only work you manually have to do is approve transactions that have been auto imported for you - and that’s absolutely a feature, not a bug

        • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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          Except the auto-imports fuck up constantly which means you need to manually reconcile them. And they straight up discourage you from using auto imports in the first place. You’re “supposed” to reconcile all accounts manually in YNAB.

          On top of that you have to make sure every transaction is categorized correctly, so there definitely is manual work to do.

          It’s a spreadsheet with a cult, nothing more.

      • GVeltaine
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        22 years ago

        Same. They can’t justify me to pay a fee that increases every year.

    • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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      Pre-Intuit it was pretty decent, before banks had their own apps and before there was much competition. Once I could use my credit union’s app and it had all the usual features no more need for Mint.

      These day-to-day budgeting apps with categories and stuff, it’s great when you’re spending in a similar manner or have specific goals. Once I had a mortgage and bills and stuff, I found the granularity of the information wasn’t as relevant, I kind of know what’s going on intuitively enough. Also you have a lot bigger unscheduled spending, like propane every 2-6 months which is gonna be like $1000 and seasonally dependent, yeah you can work it out per year to know you’re okay, but to have some alert that’s like “YOU WENT OVER YOUR AVERAGE ON BILLS THIS WEEK BY 300%!” is unnecessary. Similar with food, I’m gonna load up on meat and it’s gonna be like YOUR FOOD SPENDING IS OFF THE RAILS. Things like “you spent x more on gas this week” it’s like useless info, “okay I won’t buy gas and go to work then… thanks.” “You spent x more on vices,” sure, but I think people know they’re making a bad decision and it’s just a 2nd validation to “manage” the vice spending.

      For useful reporting you can just export your data from your bank/cu and make your own reports. Apps that amalgamate your financial data are still useful but then you’re in to legit financial planning territory which is sort of a separate category of apps.

      • @dogebread@lemm.ee
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        52 years ago

        Personal Capital or whatever they rebranded to has been generally stable since I left mint a few years ago.

  • @linearchaos@lemmy.world
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    352 years ago

    Pretty much just gone back to a spreadsheet.

    insights about spending up and down per category and automatic categorization was pretty nice.

    Budget targets were nice.

    I’ve been meaning to look around for something self hosted or FOSS.

    • @Dave@lemmy.nz
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      52 years ago

      I use a spreadsheet. I have a macro for categorisation but you could probably do it with vlookup instead.

      I like using a spread sheet because I’m not locked in to anything, and neither is my data.

        • @Dave@lemmy.nz
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          32 years ago

          I have my spread sheet set up just how I want it, based on what I am looking for in a money management tool. I’ve come to accept that no other tool will do what I want as well as the thing I set up myself.

          • capital
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            22 years ago

            How are you entering transactions? Manually?

            • @Dave@lemmy.nz
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              22 years ago

              Each month I download a spreadsheet of transactions from my bank’s website. I only manually set categories for things not previously seen.

      • @Spastickyle@lemmy.world
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        32 years ago

        I also have a robust spreadsheet that has enough VLOOKUPs to choke a supercomputer. Mint was just an aggregate for all my financial institutions that I could then export from the site and into my spreadsheet. I’m willing to pay for this aggregate service, just not a lot.

        • @Dave@lemmy.nz
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          32 years ago

          I can export spread sheets from my bank website and then have them automatically processed. I do it once a month, and it’s only a couple of minutes to do. I can understand the appeal of an aggregate service but I don’t find it helpful in my case.

  • @MrTHXcertified@lemmy.sdf.org
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    To those who have already switched (whether to Credit Karma or another service): What are you using and why do you like it?

    • @Judgy_McJudgerson@lemm.ee
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      52 years ago

      I switched before this because I wanted to keep an eye on my credit score. Credit Karma gives me both scores and with more detail than I was getting from Mint.

        • @Judgy_McJudgerson@lemm.ee
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          No. I can’t see how I spend my money on there unfortunately. It’s also big on advertising like “you should get another credit card. Here’s some preapproved offers!”

          But Tbf, I barely notice the lack because Mint could never get my transactions right anyway and was constantly disconnecting accounts.

    • @Thunderbird4@lemmy.world
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      I guess it depends on what you’re using Mint for, but I’ve been getting a lot of use out of Empower (formerly Personal Capital) for tracking all my accounts in one place. No subscription or anything, just some pressure, sometimes including phone calls, to use their financial advisor services.

      I’ve had an account with Credit Karma for ages and I’m not sure what service they offer that would be comparable, but they were bought by Intuit a few years ago, so I’d find it hard to recommend them for much anymore.

    • @psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      I’d recommend avoiding Credit Karma. It was great until it was bought by Intuit a couple of years ago. I don’t know that it’s changed a ton yet, but Intuit, so if it hasn’t enjoy that while it lasts I guess.

  • @3ntranced@lemmy.world
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    252 years ago

    Oh thank heavens, I thought they were shutting down the economies of Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey

    • @QuiteQuickQum@lemmy.world
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      As a user of YNAB, I’m glad there’s an open source option, as well. The method/approach really clicked for me.

    • @missveeronica@lemmynsfw.com
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      22 years ago

      Thank you for posting this. Stupid question, how do I download just to put it on my laptop? I don’t download from github a lot and I’m a little lost pulling down the exe.

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        I don’t think it’s offered as as an exe as it’s server-client model where you access it through a web-browser. If you want to just run it on your laptop, it can be both your server and client. The installation instructions are here, and there are also instructions for Docker on the left-side menu.

      • @Spastickyle@lemmy.world
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        122 years ago

        The main draw of Mint for me was how it pulled all transactions from all of my financial institutions. Can GnuCash do that too or is it just a FOSS alternative of QuickBooks?

        • @huginn@feddit.it
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          82 years ago

          No.

          I tried cludging something together with email scraping once but it relied on too many online microservices (zapier etc) and I could never really stabilize it.

        • @jmp242@sopuli.xyz
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          12 years ago

          I guess it’s like quickbooks. It can import financial institutions transactions downloads I believe.

        • Goronmon
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          It’s more complicated than just a spreadsheet but not as complicated as regular programming. You will want to learn general accounting practices like double entry bookkeeping to really understand how to use it though.

      • @d13@programming.dev
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        22 years ago

        I’ve been checking YNAB out. I really like that it has an API subscribers can use.

        One of my complaints is that it doesn’t seem to have rule-based categorization, but I may just write a script (or find someone else’s) that interacts with the API.

      • @bluemellophone@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        I’ve tried many over the years, and I keep going back to YNAB. Been happy using it for the better part of 4-5 years now.

    • @papertowels@lemmy.one
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      42 years ago

      I use budget with buckets. Similar to ynab, however syncing, if you want it, only costs $15/year. Free unlimited trial.

    • Chozo
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      I’ve been using Rocket Money. It has mostly the same functionality as Mint, but seems to work a lot better. It also doesn’t wait 5 days to notify me of deposits like Mint does.

    • capital
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      I’m really liking Tiller.

      I found it much easier than YNAB to understand and it all stays in a spreadsheet I control.

    • @aceshigh@lemmy.world
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      Have several credit cards for your categories, and use the same checking account to autopay for all. View credit card statements for breakouts and ytd expenditure for each category.

      • @papertowels@lemmy.one
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        22 years ago

        Just a heads up that the Citi custom cash card gives you 5% back on the most spent category, great for rarely boosted categories like gas or groceries.

        Seems to mesh really well with your budgeting method. Limited to one per person, but if you have anyone you trust to be an authorized user you can each have one to have two such categories.

  • N-E-N
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    172 years ago

    Been wanting to switch to a local-only solution for ages, guess they’re forcing me to hurry up :D

    • @stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca
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      52 years ago

      I made the move years ago and haven’t regretted it at all. I just hate that most of the solutions are subscription crap (looking at you YNAB) though the one I use is a pay once service unless you pay for the bank connection.

      • @ryper@lemmy.ca
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        I got YNAB 4 in a Steam sale before it was delisted and I don’t understand what the subscription version could possibly add to make it worth the cost. Having it connect to your accounts is more convenient than downloading OFX files, but that’s not worth $99/year.

      • N-E-N
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        12 years ago

        I just heard about Cashew which I think ima try and switch to. What are you on?

        • @stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca
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          I use Moneydance, it isn’t the prettiest program out there, but it does what I need better than anything else I’ve tried and is available for every platform you can think of. I like that it is a one time cost as well, paying a subscription for this type of software seems insane to me.

    • @ryper@lemmy.ca
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      The “Sunset” edition of Microsoft Money is still available for free, although not directly from Microsoft anymore. It’s old but it can handle regular accounts and investment accounts; no online functionality, but it supports importing OFX files, and QFX files if you change the file extension.

    • @completion@lemmy.one
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      32 years ago

      Such a thing exists? I haven’t been able to find something that will connect to my accounts and pull data automatically.

      • N-E-N
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        52 years ago

        Ah nothing that pulls the data automatically but, I stopped sharing my bank passwords with them anyway cause it felt kinda sketch haha

        • @completion@lemmy.one
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          22 years ago

          I feel that same, I stopped using mint for that reason but I haven’t found a self hosted replacement yet.