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@zShxck@lemmy.ml to Linux@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago

I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

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I'm ditching htop for btop, look how cool it is

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@zShxck@lemmy.ml to Linux@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago
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  • @JoeKrogan@lemmy.world
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    I made the swich a year or two ago. It is much better I find. I leave it running in a tmux session on my server . with btop on one pane and switch to another with a split view to do work. It allows me to take a quick glance at any time while not taking the focus from what I was working on.

    • @zShxck@lemmy.mlOP
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      Don’t understand why someone should downvote you, take my upvote instead

      • @257m@sh.itjust.works
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        Might be missclick. Some people have fat fingers.

        • @railsdev@programming.dev
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          The slide is what gets me. My client supports swiping for voting so I’m constantly downvoting by accident.

          • @FutileRecipe@lemmy.world
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            So does mine (Voyager), and the misswipes is why I disabled it, which thankfully Voyagers allows to be configurable.

            • @aeharding@lemmy.world
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              1•2 years ago

              The latest Voyager also allows you to customize when the long swipe trigger point is now! Settings -> Gestures -> Long Swipe Trigger Point

        • @zShxck@lemmy.mlOP
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          I saw him with “-1” so actually 2 people not just one person have misclicked according to your theory. Hmmm i don’t know, but i hope it’s true, better then the alternative

      • @JoeKrogan@lemmy.world
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        Lol no idea, some people just want to watch the world burn I suppose. Thanks kind stranger. Wishing you and yours the best.

  • unalivejoy
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    Ooh, it looks even better than gtop.

    Edit: Why does the menu look like this?

    • @TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub
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      70•2 years ago

      50/50 on if it starts listing processes or launches a new game of Zelda.

      • 𝙣𝙪𝙠𝙚
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        15•2 years ago

        Say no more, I’m sold

    • Rikj000
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      15•2 years ago

      Btop has been rewritten in C++, hence the ++

      • @aport@programming.dev
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        Uh oh, time to rewrite it in rust

        • @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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          https://github.com/aristocratos/btop/issues/5

        • @gbin@lemmy.ca
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          The rust one is called bottom (btm) see the other thread :). When you already have a rust environment it is just at a cargo install away which is convenient.

        • @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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          https://github.com/aristocratos/btop/issues/575

    • @zShxck@lemmy.mlOP
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      Jeez, never saw that, mine just open the program

      • @AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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        7•2 years ago

        Press ‘m’

    • Beej Jorgensen
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      1•2 years ago

      Nostalgia city…

  • @hexloc@feddit.nl
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    That basically looks like every hollywood movie in existence

    • @cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works
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      14•2 years ago

      I use btop, iotop, jnettop, and radeontop. I rarely need any individual piece of information any of them but they make for an incredible spread of blinkenlights.

      • @the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml
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        You can use nvtop for monitoring your GPU, not as detailed as radeontop though but looks good

        • @intrapt@sh.itjust.works
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          deleted by creator

    • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿
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      hollywood is an installable app which when run takes over your machine with a fullscreen terminal and multiple panels with lots of dyanamic data to look like a hacking scene from a Hollywood film. :)

      You can exit it with Ctrl+C

      • @Hammersbald@lemmy.world
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        Thank you for this, I installed it yesterday and it brought me immeasurable joy for a few minutes :D

    • @jherazob@beehaw.org
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      Nope, for that use this one, which is also in Debian-based distros and Docker

    • @Catsrules@lemmy.ml
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      Clearly OP Is hacking the Matrix.

  • @brax@sh.itjust.works
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    I tried btop. It slowed my computer way the fuck down, so I went back to htop

    • @Rin@lemm.ee
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      deleted by creator

      • @brax@sh.itjust.works
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        My laptop went bonkers trying to run it, maybe I have something misconfigured somewhere. I wanted to like it because it looks great, but I couldn’t because it was seemingly too resource intensive.

    • voxel
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      yeah you need a decently fast hw accelerated terminal for it
      for example, the gnome terminal is pretty slow; if you’re using it, try running it in alacrity or kitty and see if that improves performance.

    • @lelgenio@lemmy.ml
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      Maybe you used bpytop, not btop? They look the same iirc.

  • Thurstylark
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    Pro tip: configure a font that doesn’t show open circles for unused braille characters to have a higher priority than your current font to get better-looking graphs.

    On my system, braille characters are provided by DejaVu Serif, and it was as easy as just installing the font.

    • @zShxck@lemmy.mlOP
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      Where do you see open circles? I don’t understand sorry

      • @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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        I think they mean the variable width of the graph’s columns. If you watch it as the graph moves, there are gaps at every 2 columns.

        I don’t understand though the thing about font priorities.
        And also, would that just change all fonts? Unless you mod the font to only have the braille characters…

      • Thurstylark
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        2•2 years ago

        No, you’ve got it set up right. Many people will have graphs where each character rectangle has open circles for the unused braile dots in the character block.

        Here’s an example.

    • @PlexSheep@feddit.de
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      Stop has a block mode, I just use that. Stop is so fancy I love it

  • deadcatbounce
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    Does noone use glances anymore?

    • @rustyredox@lemmy.world
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      I do as well. I really appreciate the information density, key bindings, and optional web UI. Although I found if I leave glance is running for a prolonged amount of time, it has a tendency to crash from some python issue I haven’t dissected yet, as it takes so much time to reproduce.

    • Marud
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      I do.

  • El Gringo Loco
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    Yeah, that looks very cool. Wish I could use it as my wallpaper or a widget in gnome

    • @zShxck@lemmy.mlOP
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      Open btop in the terminal, then (note the terminal window must not be in fullscreen) right click with the mouse on the top bar of the terminal window and select “Always on top”.

  • Jo Miran
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    One I started using Bpytop, I couldn’t go back.

    • nanook
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      @JoMiran @zShxck That is very nice. I love the way you can toggle between disk space usage and disk I/O usage. Here is a btop of the machine that friendica.eskimo.com is running on:

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  • @bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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    Both are useless toys for newbie sysadmins who think their job is sitting and looking at list of processes.

    • @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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      Nice gatekeeping.

    • @pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org
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      Teach me how to know which process is hogging my memory or CPU, in less than 5 steps without htop?

      • Papamousse
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        Launch top? Quick glance, type ‘q’, then kill

        • @bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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          Just type k to kill.

        • @dmrzl@programming.dev
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          Lol, top. Try that to figure out the load on a 256 core DGX slurm setup with that shit. Top is barely usable on consumer hardware…

      • WuTang
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        do you experience that often ? anyway, the plain, basic ‘top’ command can provide it to you. There’s literally a column %CPU and %MEM

        • @bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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          This. Type f, select %MEM, then type s and q.

    • Aatube
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      I mean, you do sometimes need to check out which processes are running to debug

      • @bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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        Aren’t top or pgrep enough for that?

        • Aatube
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          If it looks better and does the same thing efficiently, I’ll take the thing that looks better.

          • @bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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            You have a pre-installed tool and a tool that looks better but which you need to install. When you need it for a rare task, and you administer many machines, it is easier to use what you already have on each of them.

            • Aatube
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              Do these programs not work over SSH?

              • @bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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                Sorry, I don’t understand what you are talking about. Yes, you can run them in SSH session. No, you still need to have them installed on the remote machine to do this. And installing diagnostic tools is not only time consuming, sometimes it can be even impossible if you already get in troubles (and if you did not, why would you need them?).

                • Aatube
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                  Hmm, that’s a fair argument. I’m pretty sure new server installations can just have their default program list modified though.

    • WuTang
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      It’s not even about sysadmins, it’s just hacker wannabe. tomorrow they will say “coz I waNt to maSter mo sYstem”.

      yep good luck in auditing the 1.5k packages installed on your system.

      • @Locrin@lemmy.world
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        Cringe take. I’ts just a fun pretty system monitor tool. I work as a senior cloud architect. I have 10 years of pretty heavy professional and home Linux usage and I just installed it on my home server because I have a unused 1/3 on one of my monitors at home where it can just live forever inside tmux.

        It’s fun to see Plex take more resources because someone started a stream, or see the different parts of kubernetes working when I start a few containers. I have also added a drive to my btrfs raid so I was interested in seeing what kinda load the re balance did on the system over time. Turns out not much. It’s a fun tool.

        I use different tools on the several Azure environments I am part of maintaining lol.

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      I use it to find a process quickly and send a SIGTERM. I’m probably a noob though.

      • @bizdelnick@lemmy.ml
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        Why not top? pkill? killall? These tools are usually installed by default.

        • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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          Why not indeed.

    • @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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      It is, for them.

  • @namelivia@lemmy.world
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    I used for a bit, I even configured it to open in a separate monitor when booting, it was cool for a while

    • @FutileRecipe@lemmy.world
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      I used for a bit…

      What changed?

  • Raccoonn
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    I ditched all top programs on my system, because I have no use for any of them…

    • @berg@lemm.ee
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      How do you check what is eating up all your memory/cpu?

      • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ
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        Just download more, simple.

        • @TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml
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          mount google drive as swap. RAM downloaded !!

          • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ
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            I kinda want someone to make this for shits and giggles.

            • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠
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              https://blog.horner.tj/how-to-kinda-download-more-ram/

              Already been done.

        • @milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev
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          ⬆️ This man is too dangerous to be left alive.

      • anoklola
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        @berg @furycd001

        To get a comprehensive overview of your system’s resource usage, install and run the btop command. It’s a top-like interactive system monitor that displays a range of system information, including:

        -CPU usage (per core and overall)
        -RAM usage (free, used, and cached)
        -Disk usage (per disk and overall)
        -Network usage (bytes sent and received)
        -Process list (with CPU, RAM, and disk usage per process)
        -System temperature
        -Uptime

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        My computer just works so I’ve never needed to check, but I run XFCE & have xfce4-taskmanager installed, so I could use that if I ever needed…

        • @berg@lemm.ee
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          Ah, I see. I use htop as a task manager.

    • TwinTusks
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      I only use htop to kill process when it froze.

      • Raccoonn
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        I just use xkill for that…

        • TwinTusks
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          A question, what tod do when the laptop is completely frozen, as in you can’t even move your mouse. Is the only solution to force shutdown?

          • @Matty_r@programming.dev
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            You can try the Magic SysRq key, if its enabled.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

            https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Keyboard_shortcuts

          • Raccoonn
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            Thankfully I’ve never had that happen, but if it did I would probably just switch to a tty & use the killall command on whatever was giving me bother…

          • @lowmane@lemmy.world
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            Switch to a different virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-F3), login and restart desktop manager, switch back to the normal GUI terminal (ctrl-alt-F2)

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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      There’s a top surgery joke in here somewhere, I can feel it.

  • @aodhsishaj@lemmy.world
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    Hi Guiseppe

  • @SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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    Meanwhile, every system (even Android) has good ol’ top. It works.

    • @yum13241@lemm.ee
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      It can’t even kill processes.

      • @SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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        That’s what kill is for …

        • @yum13241@lemm.ee
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          And then I forget the pid.

          • Trailblazing Braille Taser
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            That’s what pkill is for.

          • @SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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            It should be in the terminal right next to the one you have open for issuing the kill command

            Don’t tell me that you’re only using a single terminal window

  • @4am@lemm.ee
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    I just wish there was a .deb package.

    Still gonna get around to making a playbook for installing it someday. btop (and it’s predecessors) are awesome.

    • caseyweederman
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      There’s a deb in Ubuntu Universe.
      Oh heck, it’s in Debian Bookworm too, and Bullseye-Backports.
      Debs all around.

      • @4am@lemm.ee
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        I could have sworn I checked and didn’t find it. I’ll look again, maybe I did something wrong

  • @scumola@sh.itjust.works
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    btop doesn’t update all of the characters for me after a while if I leave it open for a long time, and eventually it stops updating altogether.

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