• @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    1742 years ago

    "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

    Matthew 6:24

    • @snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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      652 years ago

      Thank you. The best way to fight this is quoting scripture. Half these chuckles haven’t even seen a bible, let alone know what the words inside say.

      • @ChronosWing@lemmy.zip
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        132 years ago

        It doesn’t matter, they pick and choose what they want to believe. If you try throwing scripture at them they just contort themselves into a pretzel trying to explain why that particular scripture is not to be taken literally.

        • @snekerpimp@lemmy.world
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          62 years ago

          I find it fun backing them into corners and them becoming enraged. I then point out that they are not being very Christ like, and that usually ends my conversation with the charlatan.

    • @Madison420@lemmy.world
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      72 years ago

      He’s wearing a good quality suit, he’s mixing materials as that liner is almost certainly silk and the shirt linen or cotton.

  • HuddaBudda
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    572 years ago

    Mathew 25: 36 - 40

    I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    Why does our country embody NONE of these ideals? Why do modern day Christians embody NONE of these ideals? How can we call ourselves a nation under god when we bomb innocent civilians, stave children for profit, imprison a population disproportionately then use them as slave labor, and shoot at immigrants for merely crossing an imaginary line.

    What GOD would want us?

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      That’s the general shape of my reply when someone tries to tell me that it’s gay people or trans people or abortion or pornography that are ‘causing God to hate us’. You mean, it’s me and my husband and our trans friends, and not the hate and the murder and the greed and the privation of the downtrodden?

      It’s never a productive conversation, let me tell you…

  • @MagicShel@programming.dev
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    That’s such a classic answer because the bible doesn’t say shit other than what we decide it says. Our interpretation of it follows cultural norms, not the other way around. One thing it damn sure doesn’t say is abortion is wrong or that life begins at conception - it explicitly says the opposite and that hasn’t somehow changed anyone’s opinions.

  • BillDaCatt
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    432 years ago

    It is odd to me how many people claim to be guided by a 400+ year old European version of a 2000+ year old Middle-Eastern text.

    • GONADS125
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      42 years ago

      Don’t forget that it may have plagiarized the story of Horus, which predated the Bible…

      • @Perfide@reddthat.com
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        32 years ago

        Nor should we forget that the basis for the Christian god originates in the polytheistic religion of the Canaanites. The Canaanite deity Yahweh, that eventually became known as the Abrahamic creator god, was merely a god of weather and war, rather than the supreme God. That was a different deity, ʼĒl, who eventually became conflated with Yahweh in the process of switching from polytheistic to monotheistic.

    • @4lan@lemmy.world
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      And if they die a couple days after a beating the master is absolved of wrongdoing.

      The bible is fucked

      • @PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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        42 years ago

        Yet here he is proudly claiming “its his worldview”. As far as red flags go, I’d put that on par with him saying his celebrity crush was Jeffery Dahmer.

      • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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        42 years ago

        Years ago, I remember a scholar - interviewed on NPR - that had compared “the” bible to the Quran and it may not shock very many people that “the” bible is highly problematic, even compared to the problematic parts of Quran.

  • @IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee
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    Hey everyone, please take note that all of the radical fascists that have been gracing your news feeds ARE NOT BOOMERS

  • @reddig33@lemmy.world
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    332 years ago

    Dude claims to be a Christian, but he’s the one who needs to read his Bible. Half the stuff he espouses doesn’t come from the New Testament.

    • The way I have always viewed Christians vs Catholics is that Christians fundamentally believe faith in god is the only requirement. In Catholicism it is not enough to believe, but they believe that good deads are required, hence Catholic guilt. In that way, Christians don’t really care about the new testament and the teachings of jesus, believe in god is all they require to be good Christians.

      • @Cihta@lemmy.world
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        Interesting take. I grew up Catholic, Sunday school yada yada. That guilt… that is some fucked up shit to put into a child.

        But as you put it, Christians are far more insufferable and a significant reason why I changed my faith.

        And please spare me how the Catholic Church is somehow king of pedo. Every Christian sect is rife with them. If you care about your kids stay away from them all. You can give them a better handle on ethics and mortality with some basic cartoons. And they’ll probably enjoy them rather than groan at the stupid outdated biblical shit you want to make them learn.

        Yeah, I’m biased but i stand by that statement.

        • Yes, but in the US you have Catholics and all the various sects that fractured from the Catholic church, i.e. Christians who don’t follow the pope. They all follow Christianity, which makes them all Christians, but whether they focus on Jesus Christ and the New Testament or focus on god and the Old Testament is where the distinction lies.

          • Exatron
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            22 years ago

            So, the more appropriate thing to say would be, “Catholics vs other Christians.”

            • Correct, again its just been my experience that non-catholic Christians will generally refer to themselves as Christians and Catholics will call themselves Catholics over saying they are Christian, at least in the US.

      • @Fraylor@lemm.ee
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        32 years ago

        Them catholics sure like to dig around for something to assuage their ‘guilt’ inside little boy holes.

    • @Birdie@thelemmy.club
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      I’m athiest, but spent many years in church, so here’s my understanding of why he references the Old testament:

      Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it. (Matthew 5:17-18) So the Law, which is found in the OT, is still in effect. Each denomination and individual decides for themselves what parts they’ll pay attention to.

      Many Christians throw out the entire Old Testament, but most just pick and choose which parts they want enforced. They love the 10 commandments, for example. But they also wear mixed fabrics, eat pork & shrimp, and some get tattoos…all of which are forbidden in the OT.

      This guy plays Pick & Choose. If it’s in the OT and he can use it to make this country a “Biblical Republic”, he will use those verses. If it means he can’t eat crawfish etouffee, then that verse clearly doesn’t matter to him.

      The scariest part about this dude is that he interprets everything thru the lens of scripture. And he does not believe the separation of church and state is real.

      • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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        42 years ago

        I’ve been saying most of my life that “the” bible is basically a Rorschach blot used for confirmation bias for both liberal xtians and conservative xtians. Many liberals look at the “red letter” portions of the NT and want to dispense with most everything else, including the OT.

        The weirdest thing about the NT is why on Earth Paul gets so much prominence. This is a guy who, even according to the narrative, never even met the character of Jesus…and yet, so many xtians seem to lean on things he wrote, even though they contradict things the character of Jesus is made to say in their stories. These people should be called Paulians.

  • Chariotwheel
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    252 years ago

    Elsewhere he wrote, “Experts project that homosexual marriage is the dark harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy that could doom even the strongest republic.”

    The gays are too powerful. Happily married homosexuals are too strong to contain.

    • @SARGEx117@lemmy.world
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      122 years ago

      “ExCUSE ME? You cannot rape these men, I believe they are angels, and they’re my guests! The AUDACITY of your request! How DARE you! But please, rape my daughters on your way out. I insist.” -Lot

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        Yes, I can see why Republicans want us to pick up the Bible and read it. You can take all these stories and apply them to living a good life today. /S

        Christians don’t read they bible. They listen to the preacher tell them what’s in the bible. And you know that he is not telling them these parts, has he passes the collection plate.

    • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      22 years ago

      Well, raping of men would be gay, though. Raping two young girls: totally cool w/ their god Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah. NO HOMO.