Defeating Hamas?
A war against Hamas that targets civilians is just going to create more Hamas.
You kill 100 civilians for every 4 Hamas fighters, all you end up with is 10 new Hamas fighters from the relatives of the civilian dead.
He’s delusional.
Thats why I honestly believe that he just wants to genozide all Palestinians and grab the remaining land. Thats the only possible end to this conflict if Israel stays on this path. And it was on this path since 70 years, so why stop now? The colonization of North America had a similiar pattern. Settle deeper and deeper in the territory of the other group and if they attack you, strike back ten times harder. Repeat until they have no suitable land left. It’s making me sick that we have to watch this shit in our times and that our politicians allow it or even support it.
Thats why I honestly believe that he just wants to genozide all Palestinians and grab the remaining land.
Anyone who doesn’t think this is delusion. The Israeli government never wanted peace
Hamas never wanted peace, either. This is just a decades-old hot war arriving at its conclusion.
Former Palastinian leader, Yassar Arafat who was awarded a nobel peace prize died in 2004 confined to his compound by the IDF. Swiss investigators suggested polonium poisoning, French and Russian investigators didn’t really make a conclusion, but couldn’t really confirm or deny it.
A Hamas founder was killed in 2004:
“Yassin, a quadriplegic who was nearly blind, had been reliant on a wheelchair due to a sporting accident at the age of 12.[8] In 2004, he was killed when an Israeli helicopter gunship fired a missile at him as he was being wheeled from Fajr prayer in Gaza City.[9] The attack, which also killed both of his bodyguards and nine bystanders, was internationally condemned.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Yassin
Yassin on several occasions proposed long-term ceasefire agreements, or truces, so called Hudnas, in exchange for Israeli concessions. All such offers were rejected by Israel. Following his release from Israeli prison in 1997, he proposed a ten-year truce in exchange for total Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza and a stop to Israeli attacks on civilians. In 1999, in an interview with an Egyptian newspaper, he again offered a truce: We have to be realistic. We are talking about a homeland that was stolen a long time ago in 1948 and again in 1967. My generation today is telling the Israelis, ‘Let’s solve this problem now, on the basis of the 1967 borders. Let’s end this conflict by declaring a temporary ceasefire. Let’s leave the bigger issue for future generations to decide.’ The Palestinians will decide in the future about the nature of relations with Israel, but it must be a democratic decision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Yassin#Views_on_the_peace_process
Considering he was returning from mosque, and was executed, to international condemnation, it’s clear to see that he was replaced with much worse. Three of Hamas leadership have lost family also (wife/2 children, brother, eldest son).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67103298
In 2006, Hamas won a majority for the first time and took control of the Gaza strip and booted Fatah out.
From heading hopefully towards peace, to a divided Palestine with an increasingly hostile Hamas in the space of 2 years with the IDF possibly playing a significant part in that, it is hard to say that Israel aren’t more than a little responsible for radicalising Hamas further/agitating them. They also hold an awful lot of territory in the West Bank (which Hamas do not control).
It does not seem Israel want peace at all. I cannot imagine they are this incompetent. Not that I’m defending Hamas, they’re absolute assholes. Though. killing 7000 people including 40% children, it is the population of Gaza who are suffering. It is certainly going to help Hamas recruit with so many people losing parents, siblings and relatives. We head away from peace with every single day and it’s so painful to watch this.
Where in NA is that happening?
If you read carefully, you will notice that the commenter used the past tense: “had” = simple past tense of the verb “to have”.
I love it that I asked a question and noone really cares to answer but down vote me to hell and back. Also someone will snob me from the side telling me about the comment of the guy I asked a question to???
You’re being downvoted because it’s a stupid question. It’s not happening currently in NA; they’re making a comparison to the historical colonization that happened there.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. That’s at least what the Sesame Street told me as a child. People should be less entitled and maybe just share information?
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
I’m sorry, but this is one of those. There are questions that are stupid. There are questions that mislead. There are questions that strongly imply a falsehood. There are questions that insult the audience or the person it’s directed to.
You did some of that by wholly misunderstanding a comment and thinking the commenter was daft. It’s insulting and you’re busy being concerned about your hurt feelings and down votes that don’t even add to user karma.
Example: when did you stop beating your SO?
It’s an obnoxious and insulting question.
Don’t trot out a trite thing we tell children so they don’t do stupid things. We’re grown here, we know better - or we should.
I am answering you. The guy you asked a question to was talking about something that had happened in the past. You then asked a question as though you’d misread it and thought he was saying that it was still happening. He didn’t say that, so your question is already answered.
I wish you would receive as many upvotes as I received down votes, thank you.
Even without taking his mind into the palm of your hand, you can see that some things are not worth consuming. If this guy’s brain was dinner for aliens it would be thrown in the trash to be recycled.
Not if you kill all the civilians too
Hoooo boy. He’s legitimately trying to turn this into a holy war for Israelis. This is going to get messy (well, messier than it is already).
Invoking Christian text too. That way he can unify the Christian right on the side of Israel.
Bro, the Book of Isaiah is not a «Christian text». It is part of the Torah, the Old Testament. In fact, it’s canon for Muslims too.
It is part of the Torah, the Old Testament. In fact, it’s canon for Muslims too
Can you explain a little bit more? So the old testament is relevant to all three religion and two hate each other. sounds interesting.
Judaism, Christianity, Islam and a few other religions (Rastafarianism for example) are part of the same family of religions, called “Abrahamic Religions”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions In Islam, “Allah” literally means “God”. It’s the same God that Jews and Christians believe in. Arab Christians call God “Allah”.
When it comes to the bible itself, “the Quran mentions the Torah, Psalms, and Gospel as being revealed by God in the same way the Quran was revealed to Muhammad” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_the_Bible
You can’t defeat hamas militarily. They are a terrorist group, they want to be attacked as viciously as possible, because that creates more recruits for them.
Its been proven time and time again and yet every single time these old fucking cranks do not understand that.
Hey, as long as it distracts Israel from his judicial problems and his role in allowing Hamas to rise, it’s all good for him.
It is fascinating to me that no one is asking what outcome Hamas was looking for after these attacks. Is no one concerned that Israel is doing EXACTLY what Hamas must have expected them to do? They almost certainly had a plan and doing exactly what the other side expects means your going along with that plan. Hamas had to have known this is what would happen, so this happening is giving them what they wanted: An Israel that is rapidly losing its international mandate while committing atrocities against civilians on center stage in front of the whole world.
Hamas, following in the steps of the 9/11 attack which caused the USA govt to go into violent idiot mode so the rest of the world would despise it. The only winners in the attacks on civilians are Likud and Hamas, who get more powerful against citizens.
One theory is that they hoped that other Arab nations would join and attack Israel. That so far didn’t happen and so Hamas has to bear the full brunt of Israel’s response all by themselves.
You can’t defeat hamas militarily.
Of course you can. You essentially have to. The issue isn’t defeating them, but rebuilding afterwards. Deradicalizing Islamic terrorists without a fight is not something anybody knows how to do.
so, history has shown that the military stuff doesn’t really work at fighting terrorist insurgents. Ironically, you have to do the “rebuilding” beforehand, and even then you will eventually need to let some of them go.
so, history has shown that the military stuff doesn’t really work
Worked pretty damn well against Germany and Japan. The crux is that Hamas is no longer just random insurgents, they already are the government and they have wide support in the population.
you have to do the “rebuilding” beforehand
All of that just ends up supporting Hamas. They’ll have all the resources with none of the responsibilities. Just look what they have done in Gaza, they build huge tunnel networks, thousands of rockets and kept indoctrinating the next generation in schools and camps. You don’t stop that by throwing more resources at them. You have to completely disrupt their organisation and replace the hole they leave with something else.
You are enjoying your peace through two fucking world wars. Deal with it.
Cannot with military my ass.
Ah yes, world War 1, where we quickly and efficiently crushed the Bosnian Serb uprising without causing any further problems which is why the Austria-Hungarian empire is still so prevalent today.
Delusional. I feel like he doesn’t necessarily care about his own people either, just want to commit genocide and take over land at any cost.
The fact that people still defend this guy makes me perplexed.
He knows that he’ll loos once that war ends. He will prolong it as long as he can. Of course he doesn’t care about the lifes of his own people, never did.
Removing Netanyahoo will make the prophecy of a better society a reality
This is the kind of deadly nonsense that happens when you have a religious state. US Christian nationalists should take note, though they support Netanyahu for the sole reason that it reinforces their biblical doomsday prophecies of their own.
US Christian nationalists should take note
They are well aware.
And it’s an outcome they want.
That’s how they get Buddy Jesus to come back and punish all the sinners for their pleasure.
Or something like that.
very dangerous that these kind of totally insane shitheads want access to nukes (plus their counterpart iran)
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Religious ethnostates are a threat to world peace.
Anyone who thinks god gave them some land is incapable of rational negotiation about said land.
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“Manifest Destiny” is a euphemism for genocide.
The US is more often led by neoliberal capitalism running unrestrained… but whenever it gets creepy religious shit definitely hits the fan.
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Please explain further how Trump is a devout Christian…
In the modern Era there are some republican goals that come from religion (I.e. gay marriage opposition) but the majority of their bullshit is just about greed and power.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of greedy people in the republican party are happy to embrace Christian bullshit like abortion restrictions if it means they can drill for oil on public park land.
America is fucking complicated and trying to attribute either of the parties’ stances to a single simple thing will be extremely inaccurate.
He said he’s a Christian at some point. That’s all it takes.
There was even that time he hired his goon squad, or sorry, ordered his goon squad to attack peaceful protesters so that he could hold a Bible upside down outside.
You know the kind of stuff that our Lord and savior would do in his infinite mercy and wisdom.
Religion itself is about greed and power
The US has been a model for this kind of fuckery since the trail of tears. Maybe before.
All such factions on both sides of.this conflict must be defeated for a lasting peace
Great, the fucking crusades are back.
He should really really read up on his history before he fourth crusades Israel.
Can I be a Varangian and hang out in Greece instead?
Biden: “Yep, this is our guy. Full support. Now I’m going to go home and push through KOSA and make anything pro-gay online illegal. What are the democrats going to do? Vote against me? That only help Trump.”
Netanyahu use “Activate Evangelicals” on Republicans
Its super effective!
What’s funny is that saying Isaiah’s Prophecy will be fulfilled is completely opposite to Christianity, since Christians believe is already was fulfilled with the birth of Jesus.
Bruh you think they’ve actually read and understood the old testament?
History always fondly remembers the guy who said “God needs us to kill all of those people”.
This guy is no different from the criminals of Daesh.
Glad to see grand delusions being used in critical decision making.
Fuck you Bibi. That is all.
From what I remember (a very long time ago!), Isaiah is basically We’re unjustly oppressed and attacked and things look really bad, but just trust in God and your leaders and your diaspora will come home and everyone will come to your side and your enemies will be defeated and we’ll end up rich and in charge.
