Per capita, California is not losing the most people. Red states are.
Conservatives purposefully refuse to understand what “per capita” means so that they don’t have to deal with all of the additional cognitive dissonance that comes with ignoring basic statistics.
I’m not even kidding.
Critics conveniently forget we’re the most populated state so by default we have the highest number of people moving out of state
A little bit deceptive way to say it because there are some red states with high out-migration like Alaska and North Dakota- but there are also a lot of red states with much higher in-migration than California and, especially, New York, such as Florida and Texas.(From what I saw for 2016-2017 this could be more up to date but I don’t know the accuracy Plus this looks like generally blue counties are more often out migrating.](https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/stories/2022/03/net-domestic-migration-increased-in-unites-states-counties-2021-figure-2.jpg)
That’s not per capita and it seems to ignore deaths, which is also very self serving for the red states.
Florida and Arizona have traditionally been the popular places for old folks to go before dying, that statistic might add clarity.
WV had the biggest percent loss in 2021. And if you look census to census, it’s very red state for percent losses.
You can just look at the percent change…
Until they realize how shitty those states are and want to but, can’t move back.
Uh… Why wouldn’t they be able to move back?
It’s very expensive to move, especially so to more expensive states
Yeah, moving is expensive, but that’s not exactly “can’t move back”…
What world do you live in where money is not a deciding factor?
Uh, what? Where did I say money isn’t a deciding factor? I agreed that moving is expensive!
The original comment didn’t say it was difficult, they said you literally “can’t move back”, which is obviously not true. Hence my question…
We change the locks on the California border the day after they move.
Companies move to these states to take advantage of lax taxes, they still need skilled labor though so they pay someone from California to relocate.
They aren’t sending their best
In reading the average IQ of both places.
Edit: that should be “increasing”
I want to say “fine, California is better off without them”, but I’m sure there are some people who are forced to move for economic reasons. But then again, why are they choosing those shitholes?
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There is nothing cheap about Texas.
Tax burden is roughly equivalent to California, it’s just hidden in ways these idiots don’t realize before they move because all they see is “NO INCOME TAX.” They don’t realize those relatively cheap homes come with preposterously high property taxes that would get you woodchippered if you tried to raise them to this level in California (4-5x higher). Well okay but your home was still cheaper and it’s bigger except, by the way, you’re now making significantly less money and you knew that going in. Right? You DID account for that, didn’t you? Food isn’t really less expensive. Toll roads are fucking everywhere. Gas may be less expensive but everything is farther away and if you want to save money by taking public transport you’re fucked unless you live in Dallas because it’s the only city in this state that has something resembling a fully functional system (and it’s still utter shit compared to LA, Seattle, Boston, DC, Chicago, and even fucking Atlanta). Also your house has foundation problems because the soil in Texas is made mostly of moisture with some dirt holding hands in between.
On top of that you’re constantly dodging tornadoes, you’re surrounded by people far more racist than your “my Mexican neighbors play loud music sometimes and I don’t like it” could ever comprehend, a trip to any large public area will guarantee you’re in the midst of random assholes with guns on their hips, the government is trying to defund public education (and you can be fucking CERTAIN your property taxes won’t fucking go down), the government is such shit that it rejected improvements to Medicaid it wouldn’t even have to fucking pay for, abortion is basically illegal, and our cops will in fact just let you and your children be murdered rather than do their jobs. So at least you’ll feel right at home on that point.
Texas is shit. It’s expensive shit. If it’s actually cheaper for you then chances are good your children were already in private schools, you utilized no public services, and you were already raking in $500k or more a year. THEN you might find things easier because this state was designed to kowtow to your 1% ass.
Otherwise, move literally anywhere else. Texas is the perfect storm of dick in the ass and no reacharound.
Yeah ask anyone that lives in Oklahoma.
As someone stuck in Oklahoma I concur but who fuck to can afford to live in California? Look at the fucking homeless population and you wonder why we aren’t banging at the door.
Yeah, but there are other cheap places to live that aren’t quite as shitty.
It’s almost 1:1 people moving out and in. It’s primarily chasing jobs, which is just part of life.
Many of those that move out are conservative and want to be with their kind.
In 2018, native Texans voted for Beto 51-40 and people who moved here voted for Cruz 57-42.
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Texas is a shithole.
They’re going to florida instead though
Better than texas.
As opposed to Florida?
Florida shits on texas. They have nice beaches, cities, disney world, etc.
Only people who don’t agree are texans who have lived there their entire lives.
Pick your poison.
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Liberal states like California, with hella regulations, taxes, etc. More expensive.
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Conservative states like Mississippi, with none of the above. Cheap cost of living.
I’m starting to think America is just too big to play together nicely. And the way our politics are playing out, a sane middle ground seems unlikely.
Maybe we’ll smear ourselves all over the land, which would force some common ground, more homogenous, dunno. I hope to have 30 more years on this planet, probably less. You kids, and mine, are straight fucked.
Do your best. I’m trying too, and I’m rooting for you.
“Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It’s hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It’s round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you’ve got a hundred years here. There’s only one rule that I know of, babies - "God damn it, you’ve got to be kind.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
that’s some enlightened centrist nonsense if you think California needs a middle ground with Florida
Cost of living is the subject here. Think California is a paradise? Never been there, but it sounds damned fine. But don’t come back bitching about the cost of living.
Conservative states like Mississippi, with none of the above. Cheap cost of living.
But also things like no women’s body right, no lgbtq rights, rampant religion shoved down your throat, rampant bigotry, the war on trans leaning kids, etc…
What a wonderfully disingenuous post, thank you.
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