The White House was forced to walk back on president Joe Biden’s claim to have seen “confirmed pictures” of “terrorists beheading children” in Israel.
The Israel Defence Force previously claimed that at least 40 babies were killed in the Kfar Aza kibbutz over the weekend when the Hamas militant group launched an attack on Israel.
The army later clarified to Anadolu news agency that there was “no information confirming” allegations that “Hamas beheaded babies”.
The first casualty of war is Truth. Remember to be scheduled off all information pumped from any side during war time
Like every post in lemmy at the moment.
From what I can tell, lemmy’s on par with other social media sites (reddit, twitter, fb) wrt disinfo rates. That is to say not worse, not better, but still fucking horrible.
Makes me realize that people are just as big a driver of this bs as any state or corpo driven propaganda bot.
Yeah, bots posting disinfo are just there to plant seeds, it’s the people who make it go viral.
The accusation of killing babies must be first in the list when you look up “Casus Belli” in the CIA handbook …
Fake news just at the right time for Israel…
Shocking!
Uh ohh Biden got caught laundering Israeli propaganda.
Seems like the media is the one twisting stuff. I’ve been searching for the actual quote from the White House official that said they cannot confirm the pictures. I’ve been looking for nearly an hour, no media website has provided a source at all. However, I found it. The official said that he was referring to Israeli media, but it seems that was because he did not realize the pictures were not public.
The Israeli PM just posted some of those pictures on X(Twitter) due to claims they were lying about it.
I saw a few different sources showing it, as I don’t have an account with x, but it seems the one I linked is the only one that shows multiple images rather than just one. It seems that the actual truth is that there were some beheadings, but the majority were “just” murdered.
I’m not trying to claim that Israel is in the right here, I’m just saying it seems Biden was not lying.
So the babies weren’t beheaded, but shot or burnt. Still horrible, as expected 😔
Unfortunately, there’s other photos out there with the burnt children.
I’ll take your word for it. I’m not looking at those. It doesn’t help my mental health and I’m already upset just reading about the heinous shit done at the music festival.
The source you linked doesn’t say anything about beheadings.
I still don’t understand why this became a hot button issue…
I think it’s normal. It’s a big claim to make, and the white house had to walk away from it. I’m still waiting for an official report to understand what happened (and I don’t expect it to be “good”)
I don’t even get why the white house brought up the beheading the whole time I just thought it was 40 babies killed or whatever which they would mention not focus in on the beheading bit…
To shift the focus away from the two million people (nearly half of those are children) with no water and under constant bombing.
Edit: and also to give Hamas an ISIS feel.
I think them parading a
dead rapedgirl around in a truck gave them the ISIS vibesNeither of those things are confirmed. I hope she was not raped and she is not dead (but it doesn’t look good at all). And yes, that absolutely gave ISIS vibes (except ISIS would probably cover her body)
There are at least two known cases, one of the German girl, stripped of her clothing for obvious reasons, who is now thought to be alive, and another of an Israeli girl bleeding into her shorts
Hamas gunmen sit on her body, and bystanders spit on it.
Cunts.
I mean, for sure, but https://www.newsweek.com/shani-louk-still-alive-mother-reveals-1833453
I’m not sure “she hasn’t been killed yet” is an especially good defense.
But I’m pretty sure we should be condemning people for what they’ve actually done, not for what they were said to have done.
People want to believe it was real, it fits the narrative and justifies their extreme emotions.
I saw some of the first claims, didn’t see any confirmation, so I brushed it aside as possibly untrue. However I then saw some videos with reporters going through a kibbutz, they confirmed babies had been killed but not that they were beheaded, but alongside that post was a French journalist that said some other journalists had seen it first hand. That somehow stuck and convinced me, only later did I realise it wasn’t enough - I can only imagine that would be worse for people who saw the President say it.
I saw the same report from what you described, and noticed the second time I watched it that no bodies were shown and the journalists specifically said “we heard them say that there were children among the casualties”.
In the meantime we have pictures of real dead and confirmed children in Gaza. It’s chilling for me to see how the “potential” unproven news of a Israeli children being beheaded is apparently worth (two) million times more than all the Palestinian children shot point blank in the head by Israeli soldiers which has become far too common an occurrence.
Here’s some confirmed and documented numbers of what Israel does to Palestinian children:
- https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian
- https://www.dci-palestine.org/child_fatalities_by_age_group
- https://www.dci-palestine.org/human_shields
In the past 23 years, 2293 Palestinian children were killed by Israeli forces.
And yet despite everything done by these NGOs and human rights groups, Israel did not budge and did not try to improve the conditions for these children in an open air prison
In the end I do sincerely hope that no child was injured during those attacks (but like I pointed out earlier, this is unlikely… any attack on any civilian area will leave children at huge risk given how vulnerable they are).
I feel like people wanting to believe the beheaded story has little to do with Israel’s attacks on children. Rather, it just fits the narrative of a barbaric raider killing indiscriminately.
However the effectiveness of the lie (assuming it is one) also has nothing to do with the reasons for making it, which is clearly in service to Israel’s image.
This is not a tit for tat situation, please don’t try to make it one.
First of all, I don’t think you’ll find a photo of the bodies, at least I hope not. You didn’t see the holocaust documentary until it was seen in Nuremberg, but then the general public didn’t see them until much later.
I see three things here. First, this article is not on reliable feed. Anyone can supply content tp Yahoo. It’s the garbage can of news. Second, it is very thinly sourcesd and I havent seen anything similar.
Last, Israel brought journalists into the Kibbutz. Those journalists reported. I didn’t note any Anadolucty news agency per the article. Don’t know who they are. This article does not disprove the original story. In fact it goes out of its way not to
This is not a tit for tat situation, please don’t try to make it one.
How am I making it one? I’m talking about how the international community approaches dead children and the documented truth is that Palestinian children are being tortured, raped, killed, you name it with very little reaction and no sanctions on Israel.
First of all, I don’t think you’ll find a photo of the bodies, at least I hope not
No, but I expect at least journalists would be allowed to.
I see three things here. First, this article is not on a reliable feed. Anyone can supply content tp Yahoo.
Actually, if you look at the top of the link, this is a news article mirrored from The Independent. You can go and read it there.
It’s the garbage can of news.
Again, it’s a mirrored post from an actual news agency.
Second, it is very thinly sourcesd and I havent seen anything similar.
Actually it’s all over the news that the White House backed from these statements.
Those journalists reported.
No, they said they heard about this but none of them were able to confirm it themselves.
EDIT: I wanted to add this picture
Yes, it’s all over the news now.
I didn’t note any Anadolucty news agency per the article.
Here you go: https://www.aa.com.tr/
How am I making it one? I’m talking about how the international community approaches dead children and the documented truth is that Palestinian children are being tortured, raped, killed, you name it with very little reaction and no sanctions on Israel
You answered your own question
No, but I expect at least journalists would be allowed to.
I would think not. How would you like seeing a loved one slaughtered? Photos should only be taken for forensic purposes in this case.
Actually, if you look at the top of the link, this is a news article mirrored from The Independent.
The news is a denial that the President saw pictures, not that event didn’t happen.
No, they said they heard about this but none of them were able to confirm it themselves.
No. I first saw a journalist walking through the kibbutz. Lots of blood. Shocked troops cleaning up. The next day Israel invited journalists there, and my eyes saw blood drenched children’s beds.
Yeah… There are plenty of reports about dead children already.
Israel has bent over backwards for the people in Gaza, including offering multiple peace deals and land that was literally never “Palestinian” as their own country.
When terrorists hide in civilian areas, the civilian deaths are the fault of the terrorists, full stop.
When terrorists hide in civilian areas, the civilian deaths are the fault of the terrorists, full stop.
“Look at what you made me do!” - abusers, the world over.
This is a moron’s interpretation of what is said above.
Given your habit of posting incredibly stupid takes, I’d avoid throwing out words like “moron” here.
